From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregory Heytings Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21695: 25.0.50; Change most occurrences of `setq' in Emacs manual to `customize-set-variable'? Really? Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 09:14:40 +0000 Message-ID: <97113ce8ba560c9ac39f@heytings.org> References: <97d3ff2c-9e72-4004-88a9-08130ac99a74@default> <838s0fpixr.fsf@gnu.org> <83k0jtr45c.fsf@gnu.org> <87v93avtoe.fsf@gnus.org> <87r1dyvtav.fsf@gnus.org> <87mtolx6de.fsf@gnus.org> <87ilz9x5c8.fsf@gnus.org> <87y284rb1z.fsf@gnus.org> <0d48a23084a8b0435f37@heytings.org> <83h7eqf9wx.fsf@gnu.org> <0d48a230848de1d1b255@heytings.org> <83ee9uf82a.fsf@gnu.org> <0d48a23084cf7a569554@heytings.org> <83czpef6hj.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="33320"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, 21695@debbugs.gnu.org, hmelman@gmail.com, rms@gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 13 11:15:14 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mPi3V-0008Oo-2u for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 11:15:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50936 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mPi3T-0005W5-I9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 05:15:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37484) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mPi3K-0005Vj-3T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 05:15:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:32836) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mPi3J-0001zb-QG for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 05:15:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mPi3J-0003EL-ME for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 05:15:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Gregory Heytings Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2021 09:15:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21695 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 21695-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21695.163152448312373 (code B ref 21695); Mon, 13 Sep 2021 09:15:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21695) by debbugs.gnu.org; 13 Sep 2021 09:14:43 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:44382 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mPi31-0003DV-0p for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 05:14:43 -0400 Original-Received: from heytings.org ([95.142.160.155]:58466) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mPi2z-0003DO-Ny for 21695@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Sep 2021 05:14:42 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heytings.org; s=20210101; t=1631524481; bh=IURPJjDAd9A8aFO9dOa6+BfSmCBA+FpDMXubV2ZQ1j8=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:References:From; b=CfvDSXPbEKnzU1a3Swzc08vqQPYe/zb8YsiRgnAwaT1qprp++UNRf2a3d28oNSPq+ XJl4ZSVJEIzLG+PYybMV3R3PZNn/gbey1zHhs01gD3kVzMUdi28IKloQks3fnfN9Ny W1A34s/p9Pkvk7vZyV4FwiNQkEqJyLwVgsB3IhVODr3MJw1RKl6Zq2QGHYIwVZu4o4 ptyErHxE0Gth1tiP4c+oE1SZ+SOYUFVYCQPFEWpQ6bN7F/I7TvW7mkWTdNAuRLfSG8 15Bjw56TO5m0ATL3zvaxb4cl6LDEVxQlkZ4CIc2IEGfPympgtROv8Us59qqV4sH4dr 0aRoOfgsvy3jg== In-Reply-To: X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:214208 Archived-At: >> Let's see what others think about this aspect. > > A naive question probably: Why do we want to do "that" at run time? > Can't we make the byte compiler detect such occurrences? > Because init files are typically not bytecompiled, and because that would not catch interactive uses with e.g. M-:.