From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: xah lee Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#631: the M- notation suggestion Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:10:13 -0700 Message-ID: <96FF04D3-FEC9-490F-BE42-ACEC43880178@xahlee.org> References: Reply-To: xah lee , 631@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1217557659 32239 80.91.229.12 (1 Aug 2008 02:27:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 02:27:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 01 04:28:27 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KOkNX-0004gv-8n for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 04:28:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53268 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KOkMc-0004fe-L2 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:27:30 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KOkMY-0004fA-73 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:27:26 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KOkMW-0004ek-LN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:27:25 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51608 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KOkMW-0004ef-I9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:27:24 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:55487) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KOkMW-0003cG-6S for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:27:24 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m712RLqw020651; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:27:21 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m712K4EV018303; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:20:04 -0700 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Resent-From: xah lee Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 02:20:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 631 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.121755671016773 (code B ref -1); Fri, 01 Aug 2008 02:20:04 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 1 Aug 2008 02:11:50 +0000 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m712BlmI016767 for ; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:11:48 -0700 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KOk7O-0000Td-Ak for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:11:46 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KOk7N-0000Rb-CX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:11:45 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35359 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KOk7N-0000RI-1o for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:11:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.195]:50953) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KOk7G-0002Vj-0g; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:11:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [192.168.1.4] (c-24-6-97-120.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [24.6.97.120]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus0) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKp8S-1KOk7920YX-0005ic; Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:11:34 -0400 In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX18A1TdGNc9fs964fbL/sc5EEWwJ+/Wc6IMTT4H dmnL8fjbpUATiamAFWl09TOskad5pB/rsN521S45OJpJyb57vK 1bhPlOqW9Ek+Z6w0XqESw== X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6? (barebone, rare!) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:27:25 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:18946 Archived-At: Richard M Stallman wrote: =C2=ABLinux has no user interface and its documentation has no reason to = =20 refer to any specific keys. =C2=BB Xah Lee wrote: =C2=ABIn Gnome or KDE, when you pull menus, doesn't the shortcut shows =20= beside the menu command names?=C2=BB On Jul 31, 2008, at 3:01 PM, Richard M Stallman wrote: =C2=ABYes, but neither GNOME nor KDE is part of Linux. Linux is just = the =20 kernel.=C2=BB I was rather confused by the purpose or relevance of this remark for =20 a total of estimated 60 seconds. (not a joke) Xah =E2=88=91 http://xahlee.org/ =E2=98=84=