From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#42835: 26.3; Doc of `cl-' functions, (cl) Naming Conventions Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2020 08:27:46 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9534f420-6782-419c-a124-8106f7ea7ca1@default> References: <9937689b-a9cc-4e6d-8d89-fed4141cf7c6@default> <87pn3j3xyl.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1352"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 42835@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 09 17:28:23 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kn2KE-0000EY-LI for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Wed, 09 Dec 2020 16:27:49 +0000 Original-Received: from pps.filterd (aserp3030.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp3030.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 0B9GOpM1113113; Wed, 9 Dec 2020 16:27:49 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0122.oracle.com (aserv0122.oracle.com [141.146.126.236]) by aserp3030.oracle.com with ESMTP id 358ksqb8a7-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Wed, 09 Dec 2020 16:27:49 +0000 Original-Received: from abhmp0008.oracle.com (abhmp0008.oracle.com [141.146.116.14]) by aserv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id 0B9GRm4A004034; Wed, 9 Dec 2020 16:27:48 GMT In-Reply-To: <87pn3j3xyl.fsf@gnus.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.5071.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9829 signatures=668683 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 mlxlogscore=706 suspectscore=0 bulkscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 mlxscore=0 spamscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2012090115 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9829 signatures=668683 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 phishscore=0 mlxlogscore=726 clxscore=1011 priorityscore=1501 mlxscore=0 spamscore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 malwarescore=0 impostorscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2009150000 definitions=main-2012090114 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:195545 Archived-At: > > This node has a list of functions and macros, some of which have > > footnotes. I don't understand the footnotes (which are not > > sentences, BTW). For example, `cl-incf' has footnote [1], which says: > > [1] Only when PLACE is a plain variable name. >=20 > This is modifying the statement before the table: >=20 > --- > The following simple functions and macros are defined in > @file{cl-lib.el}; they do not cause other components like > @file{cl-extra} to be loaded. > --- Still not clear. They are defined in cl-lib only when PLACE is a var name? They don't cause other components to be loaded only when PLACE is a var name? > > Similarly for the other names and their footnotes. >=20 > Same for them. It's not clear to me whether you've fixed the doc or are just trying to explain it to me. If the latter then this is, I guess, a "won't fix". (It needs to be fixed.) > > The manual entry for `cl-pushnew' is even worse. It talks only about > > `eql' and doesn't say anything about :test. There's an xref to node > > `Lists as Sets' for info about the keyword args, but that node also > > says nothing about :test. Instead, that node just punts further, to > > node `Sequences'. >=20 > I've now removed the eql claim, and punted the explanation for :test to > "Lists as Sets". Dunno what that means. Does it mean that `Lists as Sets' has been updated to cover the keyword args, including :test?