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From: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>, John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com>
Cc: 20241@debbugs.gnu.org, Artur Malabarba <bruce.connor.am@gmail.com>
Subject: bug#20241: 25.0.50; `setq' with only one argument
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2015 13:19:32 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <9493eecd-34c6-4dc6-a881-6d41cf6fcf13@default> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151125205851.GJ2007@acm.fritz.box>

j> Ok, let's go with this then:
j>     Evaluation:  Run-time error
j>     Compilation: Compile-time warning
j>     Execution:   Run-time error (same as Evaluation)
j> I think that's the convergence point for the three of us, amirite?
 
Exactly what I prefer.

(Dunno the difference between a compiler warning and error in
our context.  To me, this is the compiler letting you know that
your code has a syntax error.  But the form that message takes
is probably a warning.)

a> Or, alternatively, we could explicitly say that whether the first 8
a> assignments are carried out before signaling the error is undefined.
a> This should deter over-clever hackers from trying to catch the
a> wrong-number-of-args error, expecting the code to have done something
a> predictable.

The behavior should altogether be undefined.  This is an
implementation detail that users should not count on.

Probably we do not need to, and should not, say anything
about what happens if you do not respect the syntax.
You will get an error, and it will be up to you to figure
out what side effects might have occurred before the error
was raised.

But IMO it would be best if the `setq' implementation tested
its arglist and raised an error at the outset, before doing
anything.  Even if it is fixed to do that, we should not
advertise it.





  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-25 21:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-01 14:53 bug#20241: 25.0.50; `setq' with only one argument Drew Adams
2015-04-01 16:41 ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found] ` <mailman.3138.1427900048.31049.bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2015-11-23 14:31   ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-23 18:44     ` Glenn Morris
2015-11-23 18:54       ` Glenn Morris
2015-11-23 22:05         ` John Wiegley
2015-11-23 19:31       ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-24 11:32         ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-24 17:38         ` Glenn Morris
2015-11-24 18:04           ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-24 19:26             ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-24 21:09               ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-25  1:46                 ` John Wiegley
2015-11-25  9:41                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-25 10:36                     ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-25 11:07                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-25 11:13                         ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-25 11:28                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-25 15:18                         ` Drew Adams
2015-11-25 15:40                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-25 16:27                             ` Drew Adams
2015-11-25 17:22                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-25 18:28                                 ` Drew Adams
2015-11-25 19:06                                   ` John Wiegley
2015-11-25 19:21                                     ` John Mastro
2015-11-25 19:22                                     ` Drew Adams
2015-11-25 19:34                                     ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-25 19:40                                       ` John Wiegley
2015-11-25 20:20                                         ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-25 20:37                                           ` John Wiegley
2015-11-26 11:07                                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-25 20:58                                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-25 21:19                                           ` Drew Adams [this message]
2015-11-25 21:52                                           ` John Wiegley
2015-11-26  0:21                                     ` Johan Bockgård
2015-11-26  8:58                                       ` Andreas Schwab
2015-11-26 12:06                                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-26 16:38                                           ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-26 21:19                                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2015-11-27  0:07                                               ` Artur Malabarba
2015-11-25 13:11                       ` Nicolas Richard

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