From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul Eggert Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#23425: master branch: `message' wrongly corrupts ' to curly quote. Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2017 17:20:58 -0700 Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Message-ID: <94369fcb-ce5f-17be-ced7-0e30bf1dd29f@cs.ucla.edu> References: <20170603205331.GA2130@acm.fritz.box> <20170605162737.GA30946@acm.fritz.box> <20170605203753.GB30946@acm.fritz.box> <20170607191344.GB2430@acm.fritz.box> <20170608173400.GA2662@acm.fritz.box> <20170609194141.GA3410@acm.fritz.box> <3b2a119e-7c2e-e906-dea0-ae91aca80f33@cs.ucla.edu> <0846dd8a-804d-4df9-8a45-979a9d49b5d6@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1497054130 9732 195.159.176.226 (10 Jun 2017 00:22:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2017 00:22:10 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.1.1 Cc: 23425@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams , Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jun 10 02:22:06 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dJUAI-0002KJ-EI for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 10 Jun 2017 02:22:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56760 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dJUAN-0005J3-Qj for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 09 Jun 2017 20:22:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56728) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dJUAH-0005Iy-Kg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jun 2017 20:22:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dJUAE-0001pq-H7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jun 2017 20:22:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:34892) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dJUAE-0001pm-DF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jun 2017 20:22:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dJUAE-0005bV-7h for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jun 2017 20:22:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Paul Eggert Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2017 00:22:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 23425 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 23425-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B23425.149705406821480 (code B ref 23425); Sat, 10 Jun 2017 00:22:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 23425) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jun 2017 00:21:08 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37569 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dJU9L-0005aO-Rb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jun 2017 20:21:07 -0400 Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([131.179.128.68]:52100) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dJU9J-0005ZZ-LT for 23425@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 09 Jun 2017 20:21:06 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51CC31600D3; Fri, 9 Jun 2017 17:20:59 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10032) with ESMTP id FIKV6e-VFxMa; Fri, 9 Jun 2017 17:20:58 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EC5D1600E7; Fri, 9 Jun 2017 17:20:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at zimbra.cs.ucla.edu Original-Received: from zimbra.cs.ucla.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zimbra.cs.ucla.edu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with ESMTP id AC8qWtuMhCvr; Fri, 9 Jun 2017 17:20:58 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.9] (unknown [47.153.184.153]) by zimbra.cs.ucla.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7D1031600D3; Fri, 9 Jun 2017 17:20:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <0846dd8a-804d-4df9-8a45-979a9d49b5d6@default> Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:133426 Archived-At: Drew Adams wrote: > Where was that concern when you hijacked `message'? There is no need for personal and inflammatory language like that. That being said, I can try to describe the software engineering concerns.= The=20 problem with Emacs 24 message quoting had several possible solutions, non= e of=20 them ideal. In practice the approach taken in Emacs 25 requires far fewer= =20 changes to existing code than the proposed quote-related format specs, an= d that=20 is a significant win. Although quote-related format specs also have advan= tages,=20 these advantages do not clearly outweigh that win and the proposed specs = have=20 further problems of their own.