From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21998: Is it time to drop ChangeLogs? Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2016 16:24:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9323ad8c-4d91-4ee8-b5fb-682eae744fb1__16947.7566065781$1457310325$gmane$org@default> References: <56BE7E37.3090708@cs.ucla.edu> <4hd1rw1ubr.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83vb50wxhv.fsf@gnu.org> <87y49vz4cg.fsf@acer.localhost.com> <64a52598-ad53-498c-993c-67d7827dbdfc@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1457310325 1129 80.91.229.3 (7 Mar 2016 00:25:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 00:25:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 21998@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen , Richard Stallman , Emacs developers To: John Wiegley Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 07 01:25:12 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aciz1-00062k-K4 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2016 01:25:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52697 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aciz0-0002NB-MH for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 Mar 2016 19:25:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52193) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aciyx-0002Lj-JL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Mar 2016 19:25:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aciys-0001yp-Jw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Mar 2016 19:25:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:40018) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aciys-0001yZ-Ha for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Mar 2016 19:25:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aciys-0005wc-Di for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 06 Mar 2016 19:25:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2016 00:25:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21998 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 21998-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21998.145731026622783 (code B ref 21998); Mon, 07 Mar 2016 00:25:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21998) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Mar 2016 00:24:26 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:37139 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aciyI-0005vP-1C for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 06 Mar 2016 19:24:26 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:22137) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1aciyF-0005v8-PW for 21998@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 06 Mar 2016 19:24:24 -0500 Original-Received: from userv0022.oracle.com (userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u270OHtt010054 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 7 Mar 2016 00:24:17 GMT Original-Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by userv0022.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u270OHVo018105 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Mon, 7 Mar 2016 00:24:17 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0002.oracle.com (abhmp0002.oracle.com [141.146.116.8]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u270OHil022225; Mon, 7 Mar 2016 00:24:17 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userv0022.oracle.com [156.151.31.74] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:114523 Archived-At: > > Maybe see this thread? > > http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2013- > > 03/msg00904.html >=20 > I respect that Richard may use them in a constructive way, but he's > no longer doing the majority of the work on Emacs, and I want to > choose the path that works for the core developers, and will make > Emacs more welcoming to new contributors. I meant the thread, not that message. I meant to link to the first, not the third, message of the thread: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2013-03/msg00879.html The point is that the subject was the same, so it might serve as a good starting point now, to see what was said before about it.