From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sebastian Urban Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#35044: 25.2; Description of "disappearing" faces (Emacs Manual) Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2019 00:01:16 +0200 Message-ID: <91458fc2-3478-998d-f34d-ae2145d07936@gmail.com> References: <875zr9vf90.fsf@gmail.com> <87a7ghsqms.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="66321"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/60.6.1 Cc: 35044@debbugs.gnu.org To: Noam Postavsky Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 25 00:02:17 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hJPy4-000Gs9-B1 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 25 Apr 2019 00:02:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47841 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hJPy3-0003yU-7T for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 18:02:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:57695) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hJPxr-0003wE-Bq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 18:02:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hJPxq-0006yP-D5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 18:02:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:43131) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hJPxq-0006yB-5k for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 18:02:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hJPxq-0001zp-24 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 18:02:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Sebastian Urban Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2019 22:02:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 35044 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 35044-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B35044.15561432867627 (code B ref 35044); Wed, 24 Apr 2019 22:02:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 35044) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Apr 2019 22:01:26 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:56672 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hJPxF-0001yx-VP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 18:01:26 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-lf1-f47.google.com ([209.85.167.47]:33079) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1hJPxD-0001yj-Px for 35044@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 18:01:24 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-lf1-f47.google.com with SMTP id j11so15897396lfm.0 for <35044@debbugs.gnu.org>; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 15:01:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:subject:to:cc:references:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language:content-transfer-encoding; bh=yFins8QR+5Wv7VDLALHUZcIKIi3WozbAkzXDBkLm3Eg=; b=gbunAfzeD8lh3GlrJ6oMwt/7OXmGm3fMEPjghGjfEYsW3kTe2/PX77cMGJ8+uk4tHm B/pilfIzQl51criXgywl98+zEvPPZ253xctt+dO1cpv0oK2qn/leAg5HhdsAx/XyE2RI fYEgr2HPPeWRba294jR4AGRexsQsM5oEN0te1oJaUM4cr69QANRlfzN5JKmqMln3IPU4 K8JLKqMi/3z3PzA1GTmQpikV+z4UCa3GxDhR7Qcj90rB7GblZ5FlfgHwThJMWNGXLGYb Jj+PTlopBzG/2SWAX6gXgWittdCrq6gzS+MzuXkCc6stfazpi02QPWgX5z3W+Cu/nBSp aa5A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:subject:to:cc:references:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language :content-transfer-encoding; bh=yFins8QR+5Wv7VDLALHUZcIKIi3WozbAkzXDBkLm3Eg=; b=cUp9CJIBF2c2MGbJyuOUG10FXgy3PuXYkVnDXOIkSBaBEn6jY1wlwdStuibox5HXnO auLFXd1q9prCFKzMywtjwbWFvExLihhlpHdY+9p6LUP4ELNua6bSeWxDlkKEwlOXiFHU mUEnvFNuEx+0qhKe+DIjZBeFRBGXP/NRradjj/P4gayu7QYsjIDxIOqCsFt/WQ/STkaX 4xYs4qnXWxpMzRTOYZrzoehIGUgNjnDy5GpGpaypuF2K6u5zmXmlGKf4XIIhjzkQk8RK nbOa+GAudgMmdTT2yHIjCcMYCxqOyHf3gc+rAX4dnL38qbPwyjyYoVrYgBxpKiYl3Zog Fgiw== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVNV3tyfXsqNHK1mkbS2VCrUq7PSrhiN1/zp+KGQ9ITWNhdnTdt REMoFlYj9aZONSzhNg/yo2Sk2qhS X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxbba5ke2XuIPmjmzuAPE1dT1P/VPWcYa39VSa7goVnG2D892eES81zEPRFQIudES3Kxstyzw== X-Received: by 2002:ac2:538a:: with SMTP id g10mr9565795lfh.141.1556143277358; Wed, 24 Apr 2019 15:01:17 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from ?IPv6:2a00:f41:1cf6:49be:1d4b:6f69:1044:80ea? ([2a00:f41:1cf6:49be:1d4b:6f69:1044:80ea]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 77sm179764ljj.57.2019.04.24.15.01.16 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 24 Apr 2019 15:01:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87a7ghsqms.fsf@gmail.com> Content-Language: en-GB X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:158206 Archived-At: > I'm unclear how this will help a beginner user. It sounds like > it's describing a potential source of buggy behaviour. Well this is why I didn't want to write it, also it's more like concept/idea rather than a patch. Again new users should not be surprised by this behaviour, so a line of warning would be nice, but if it sounds like description of bug... Maybe a footnote "This is not a bug!" at the end (yes, this is a joke). > Not sure what you mean by "hardcoded" faces. Quote (for example) RET character (C-q RET), then do 'describe-char' on it and you'll get something like "hardcoded face: escape-glyph" in the description. --- About that change 'face -> 'font-lock-face in table.el, I would probably need to report another bug/wishlist thing, am I correct? S. U.