From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#24369: Docu of prefix-numeric-value Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 14:03:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8de43dfa-e463-4060-9562-0158eb256b3a@default> References: <2a6635c0-e538-ad1b-4308-a3311a36f59a@easy-emacs.de> <93121a7b-21c7-4174-a295-052f18fde722@default> <9cd42ba9-014d-91be-24a4-0077c4e85ac4@easy-emacs.de> <83wpiqb56c.fsf@gnu.org> <83twdub2dl.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1473109460 4722 195.159.176.226 (5 Sep 2016 21:04:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 21:04:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 24369@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , Andreas =?UTF-8?Q?R=C3=B6hler?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 05 23:04:16 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bh13u-0000bu-Vn for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2016 23:04:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57096 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bh13s-0005eK-Tl for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2016 17:04:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52027) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bh13m-0005d9-KM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2016 17:04:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bh13i-0000py-F9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2016 17:04:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:52952) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bh13i-0000pa-C8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2016 17:04:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bh13h-0006WC-Oo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2016 17:04:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2016 21:04:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 24369 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 24369-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B24369.147310940725016 (code B ref 24369); Mon, 05 Sep 2016 21:04:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 24369) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Sep 2016 21:03:27 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50664 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bh139-0006VP-1n for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2016 17:03:27 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:40365) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bh137-0006VB-K4 for 24369@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 05 Sep 2016 17:03:26 -0400 Original-Received: from aserv0021.oracle.com (aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id u85L3Jcu021178 (version=TLSv1 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 5 Sep 2016 21:03:19 GMT Original-Received: from userv0122.oracle.com (userv0122.oracle.com [156.151.31.75]) by aserv0021.oracle.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u85L3IXM020335 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 5 Sep 2016 21:03:19 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0015.oracle.com (abhmp0015.oracle.com [141.146.116.21]) by userv0122.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id u85L3HE7022410; Mon, 5 Sep 2016 21:03:17 GMT In-Reply-To: <83twdub2dl.fsf@gnu.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9 (901082) [OL 12.0.6753.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: aserv0021.oracle.com [141.146.126.233] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:122976 Archived-At: > > > =E2=80=A2 =E2=80=98nil=E2=80=99, meaning there is no prefix argum= ent. Its numeric value > > > is 1, > > > > That's the point: Value of nil is 1 >=20 > No, the _numeric_ value of nil is 1. IOW, nil, when interpreted > as a number, is 1. An entirely different story. Exactly. The value of `(prefix-numeric-value nil)' is 1. That's what "numeric value of" the prefix argument means. It is also what the shorter expression "the numeric prefix argument" means. The fact that the value of some function applied to nil is 1 does not mean that the value of nil is 1.