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boundary="CW0mcBmdojLppAXKcveCwHXaQFWKIwKGe"; protected-headers="v1" From: =?UTF-8?Q?Cl=c3=a9ment_Pit--Claudel?= To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Message-ID: <8db7f4c1-8b81-605f-8480-c740d524ccae@gmail.com> Subject: Re: bug#23529: Request for fixing randomize_va_space build issues References: <02c57124-ef39-bc30-89ba-998986d070fc@cs.ucla.edu> <834m5tapuu.fsf@gnu.org> <83twdsalbk.fsf@gnu.org> <83r38vaiyh.fsf@gnu.org> <83eg4vab5o.fsf@gnu.org> <831t0va8br.fsf@gnu.org> <478e7c97-9339-5072-f9c1-ec67a45113aa@cs.ucla.edu> <83h99p8wbh.fsf@gnu.org> <0f0bb7ef-a588-93c3-5d27-c7329c667ed8@cs.ucla.edu> <83d1kd8qb7.fsf@gnu.org> <838tv18mnj.fsf@gnu.org> <83eg4sap3t.fsf@gnu.org> <3fe2aff8-d34e-afa3-a2bf-6e42394d7be6@cs.ucla.edu> <83wpik8f18.fsf@gnu.org> <34fb7c59-cf4a-fddf-98e7-fd4c25c3f395@cs.ucla.edu> <83k2ek83b7.fsf@gnu.org> <24612cc1-cb72-511f-7d52-bb62101906ae@cs.ucla.edu> <83fup6bguo.fsf@gnu.org> <83poo9alyc.fsf@gnu.org> In-Reply-To: <83poo9alyc.fsf@gnu.org> --CW0mcBmdojLppAXKcveCwHXaQFWKIwKGe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2016-09-11 22:30, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Philippe Vaucher >> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 21:32:51 +0200 >> Cc: Paul Eggert , Philipp Stephani , 23529@debbugs.gnu.org >> >>>> What about disabling randomization for the temacs run? >>>> >>>> That is yet another low-level thing to configure, and to get right i= n new ports. >>> >>> We already have that in Emacs, don't we? >> >> That is exactly why I made the bug report 23529! >> >> Because Emacs does stuffs at build time that requires "high" >> privileges (like the personality() syscall), one cannot build Emacs in= >> various restricted environments. >> >> Disabling randomization is exactly what we should get rid of, at least= >> at build time. >=20 > Isn't it the other way around: the first priority is to enable > randomization and all the other modern techniques for running the > dumped Emacs? I think we want to be able to build the full Emacs in a container; that i= s without needing, at any point in the process, to disable randomization.= If I understand correctly, this means that even the process of dumping = Emacs cannot involve disabling randomization. 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