From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15101: 24.3.50; debugger-eval-expression broken Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 10:47:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8cbe16c2-2347-4312-97ee-5fe9a5b03972@default> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1376588905 1343 80.91.229.3 (15 Aug 2013 17:48:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 17:48:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 15101-done@debbugs.gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier , Helmut Eller Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 15 19:48:26 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VA1es-0006Aw-03 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 19:48:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54748 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VA1er-0005mb-Le for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 13:48:25 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41356) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VA1eg-0005lc-Nv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 13:48:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VA1eU-0002hd-Nu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 13:48:14 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:38359) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VA1eU-0002hU-Kk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 13:48:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VA1eU-0003tF-5n for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 13:48:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 17:48:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15101 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 15101-done@debbugs.gnu.org id=D15101.137658886514920 (code D ref 15101); Thu, 15 Aug 2013 17:48:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 15101-done) by debbugs.gnu.org; 15 Aug 2013 17:47:45 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60908 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VA1eC-0003sa-7l for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 13:47:44 -0400 Original-Received: from userp1050.oracle.com ([156.151.31.82]:40152) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VA1e9-0003sM-KI for 15101-done@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 13:47:42 -0400 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com (userp1040.oracle.com [156.151.31.81]) by userp1050.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r7FHlUAQ003817 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for <15101-done@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 17:47:30 GMT Original-Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r7FHlMHl015759 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Thu, 15 Aug 2013 17:47:22 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r7FHlLJv002858 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 15 Aug 2013 17:47:21 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt120.oracle.com (abhmt120.oracle.com [141.146.116.72]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r7FHlKM0010339; Thu, 15 Aug 2013 17:47:20 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6668.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: userp1040.oracle.com [156.151.31.81] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:77399 Archived-At: > > I think a good fix is to change debug.el so that point starts on the > > first line of the *Debugger* buffer rather than on the second. >=20 > I've just made that change. And you closed the bug. That change does not fix the bug, IMHO. A user will still be tripped up by the undocumented and unguessable behavior. See my previous comments. Please take care of this properly. It is enough that a user does something in another window and then clicks `mouse-1' in the debugger window on a line other than the first, to be completely thrown off.