bug#67759: [ android ] 30.0.50; unable to access device storage

bug#67759: [ android ] 30.0.50; unable to access device storage

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* downloaded from sourceforge_ emacs-30.0.50-16-armeabi-v7a.apk
* install, close on installation
* device settings_ apps_ emacs_
permissions_ storage
* open emacs
* find file or directory_ tabbing
storage or sdcard doesnt auto
complete
* it also doesnt show org.gnu.emacs
in my device filemanager

In GNU Emacs 30.0.50 (build 1, armv7a-unknown-linux-android16) of
  2023-12-10 built on xeon
Repository revision: 79aca35c1f0b77d1c109e3b5526400d92f42a2aa
Windowing system distributor 'samsung', version 28.0.0
System Description: 
samsung/j7veltedx/j7velte:9/PPR1.180610.011/J701FDDUACUG2:user/release-keys

Configured using:
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  -Werror=implicit-function-declaration''

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bug#67759: [ android ] 30.0.50; unable to access device storage

[Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors]

It is hard to wrap my head around such a curt and superficial account of
different experiences, each of which might or might not be a bug.

జిందం వాఐి <jindam.vani@disroot.org> writes:

> * downloaded from sourceforge_ emacs-30.0.50-16-armeabi-v7a.apk
> * install, close on installation
> * device settings_ apps_ emacs_
> permissions_ storage
> * open emacs
> * find file or directory_ tabbing
> storage or sdcard doesnt auto
> complete

This might seem trivial, but people have run across this pithole before:
have you erased the leading "~" character in the default file name
prompt?  If not, do so, as Android's storage directory is located at
/sdcard rather than your home folder.

But assuming that you have, you've likely omitted the trailing "/" after
the file name that informs Emacs it is a directory.  Absent this
character, file name completion will complete from / instead of /sdcard,
and your device is one of those which deny Emacs the rights to examine
/.

> * it also doesnt show org.gnu.emacs
> in my device filemanager

This isn't a bug: your device's file manager doesn't support SAF
volumes.  The Android file manager does, and even when hidden, can
generally be accessed by means of a program that launches system
activities.  A web search should answer questions in this respect.

bug#67759: [ android ] 30.0.50; unable to access device storage

[Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors]

Please don't remove the bug tracker from the CC list.

జిందం వాఐి <jindam.vani@disroot.org> writes:

> On 2023-12-11 06:38, Po Lu wrote:
>
>> This might seem trivial, but people have run across this pithole
>> before:
>> have you erased the leading "~" character in the default file name
>> prompt?  If not, do so, as Android's storage directory is located at
>> /sdcard rather than your home folder.
>> But assuming that you have, you've likely omitted the trailing "/"
>> after
>> the file name that informs Emacs it is a directory.  Absent this
>> character, file name completion will complete from / instead of
>> /sdcard,
>> and your device is one of those which deny Emacs the rights to examine
>> /.
>
> menu_ file_ opendirectory
> * ~/
> * press enter
> * shows 6 files [ 2 saved messages,
> emacs.d, emacs-fa...., 2 dots ]
>
> no effect [ using hackerskeyboard ]
> on find file or open directory
> * omitted ~ and type sdcard or
> storage
> * omitted ~ and / and type
> sdcard or storage

I don't understand, sorry.  Would you describe the actions you took in
English, rather than as such a heavily abridged enumeration?

bug#67759: [ android ] 30.0.50; unable to access device storage

[జిందం వాఐి via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors]

On 2023-12-11 08:12, Po Lu wrote:
> Please don't remove the bug tracker from the CC list.
> 
> జిందం వాఐి <jindam.vani@disroot.org> writes:
> 
>> On 2023-12-11 06:38, Po Lu wrote:
>> 
>>> This might seem trivial, but people have run across this pithole
>>> before:
>>> have you erased the leading "~" character in the default file name
>>> prompt?  If not, do so, as Android's storage directory is located at
>>> /sdcard rather than your home folder.
>>> But assuming that you have, you've likely omitted the trailing "/"
>>> after
>>> the file name that informs Emacs it is a directory.  Absent this
>>> character, file name completion will complete from / instead of
>>> /sdcard,
>>> and your device is one of those which deny Emacs the rights to 
>>> examine
>>> /.
>> 
>> menu_ file_ opendirectory
>> * ~/
>> * press enter
>> * shows 6 files [ 2 saved messages,
>> emacs.d, emacs-fa...., 2 dots ]
>> 
>> no effect [ using hackerskeyboard ]
>> on find file or open directory
>> * omitted ~ and type sdcard or
>> storage
>> * omitted ~ and / and type
>> sdcard or storage
> 
> I don't understand, sorry.  Would you describe the actions you took in
> English, rather than as such a heavily abridged enumeration?

video_ 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Access_of_device_storage_of_emacs_on_android_issue.webm

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bug#67759: [ android ] 30.0.50; unable to access device storage

[Po Lu via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors]

Once again, please do NOT remove the bug tracker from the CC list.  This
is generally performed by selecting the "Reply All" option in your MUA
(or its analog) to reply.

జిందం వాఐి <jindam.vani@disroot.org> writes:

> On 2023-12-11 08:12, Po Lu wrote:
>> Please don't remove the bug tracker from the CC list.
>> జిందం వాఐి <jindam.vani@disroot.org> writes:
>> 
>>> On 2023-12-11 06:38, Po Lu wrote:
>>> 
>>>> This might seem trivial, but people have run across this pithole
>>>> before:
>>>> have you erased the leading "~" character in the default file name
>>>> prompt?  If not, do so, as Android's storage directory is located at
>>>> /sdcard rather than your home folder.
>>>> But assuming that you have, you've likely omitted the trailing "/"
>>>> after
>>>> the file name that informs Emacs it is a directory.  Absent this
>>>> character, file name completion will complete from / instead of
>>>> /sdcard,
>>>> and your device is one of those which deny Emacs the rights to
>>>> examine
>>>> /.
>>> menu_ file_ opendirectory
>>> * ~/
>>> * press enter
>>> * shows 6 files [ 2 saved messages,
>>> emacs.d, emacs-fa...., 2 dots ]
>>> no effect [ using hackerskeyboard ]
>>> on find file or open directory
>>> * omitted ~ and type sdcard or
>>> storage
>>> * omitted ~ and / and type
>>> sdcard or storage
>> I don't understand, sorry.  Would you describe the actions you took
>> in
>> English, rather than as such a heavily abridged enumeration?
>
> video_
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Access_of_device_storage_of_emacs_on_android_issue.webm

There is no bug in this video, so far as I can tell from its last 40
seconds.  Completion of / naturally does not function when Emacs is
forbidden from reading that directory.

bug#67759: [ android ] 30.0.50; unable to access device storage

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On 2023-12-11 08:12, Po Lu wrote:
> There is no bug in this video, so far as I can tell from its last 40
> seconds.  Completion of / naturally does not function when Emacs is
> forbidden from reading that directory.

* resolved issue [ 1 ]
* just paste "/sdcard/" after C-x C-f
* it seems autocompletion is not
implemented?

[ 1 ] 
https://github.com/orgzly/orgzly-android/issues/1043#issuecomment-1704069314

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bug#67759: [ android ] 30.0.50; unable to access device storage

[Po Lu]

What problems remain here, preventing this bug from being closed?  I
read this thread from start to finish several times but each successive
time made less sense of it than the previous.

bug#67759: [ android ] 30.0.50; unable to access device storage

[Stefan Kangas]

Po Lu <waylandthrowaway@gmail.com> writes:

> What problems remain here, preventing this bug from being closed?  I
> read this thread from start to finish several times but each successive
> time made less sense of it than the previous.

More information was requested, but none was given within 23 weeks, so
I'm closing this bug.  If this is still an issue, please reply to this
email (use "Reply to all" in your email client) and we can reopen the
bug report.