From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#27277: 25.2; Be able to get back to the *Help* of query-replace Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2019 14:10:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8ae1efe0-fcf3-442b-a371-c42a50ff8556@default> References: <5f6e8bec-d1dc-4958-819a-ba38439f16b6@default> <8736iz46yx.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="117895"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: 27277@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 21 23:11:08 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hpJ6p-000UZH-AE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Sun, 21 Jul 2019 21:10:49 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by userp3030.oracle.com with ESMTP id 2tur2tg9f1-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Sun, 21 Jul 2019 21:10:49 +0000 Original-Received: from abhmp0014.oracle.com (abhmp0014.oracle.com [141.146.116.20]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id x6LLAmBt025196; Sun, 21 Jul 2019 21:10:48 GMT In-Reply-To: <8736iz46yx.fsf@mouse.gnus.org> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4873.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9325 signatures=668684 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1810050000 definitions=main-1907210247 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9325 signatures=668684 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1011 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1810050000 definitions=main-1907210247 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:163563 Archived-At: > > 1. Use `M-%' to do some query-replacing. Hit `?' during > > query-replacing, to see the query-replace help, in buffer *Help*. > > > > 2. Use a help command, such as `C-h f'. The contents of *Help* do > not > > show a Back button, to get to the query-replace help. They should. >=20 > I don't agree -- that seems like such a context-dependent help buffer > that it's not very helpful to include that in the stack of help > buffers. Other help buffers usually have links to things you can jump > to and the like. Closing. No. Forward links from *Help* to, say, function-name *Help* display could be considered to be for related information. The [back] link is explicitly NOT that. It's purely a chronological link, to take you back to the _previously shown_ *Help* content, whatever that might be. Similarly, for [forward]. `C-h f completing-read' followed by `C-h v fill-column' has nothing to do with related information. [back] just goes back in time. You've apparently misunderstood what [back] and the help-stack is for. If we wanted only links to related information, and no chronological backtracking links, then we would not have the stack - no [back] and [forward]. (That's what we had in the old days.) The [back] and [forward] links in *Help* are, like `l' and `r' in Info, and like the Back and Forward links in your browser, purely chronological. Info has Up, Next, and Previous links for structural navigation. And it has inline (See) links for related information. Such things are not to be confused with chronological-visit links. Please consider reopening this bug. Thx.