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Linux x86_64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.0 In-Reply-To: <87twj4hdim.fsf@gmx.de> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:116455 Archived-At: On 04/14/2016 10:10 AM, Michael Albinus wrote: > And I still feel unhappy that none of the active Emacs maintainers feels > responsible for vc*.el. I do feel responsible, and I try to take care of most bug reports in that area. > I'm trying to support fixing problems here, but > most of the code, and the VCSes being used, are still terra incognita for me. It would be great if the problems we're fixing were formulated like "VC behaves like this, and it causes that problem in practice (or could cause, at least)", rather than "here is a test case, and I feel it should pass". I think that would encourage more practical choices.