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From: "Mattias Engdegård" <mattiase@acm.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, juri@linkov.net, stefankangas@gmail.com,
	larsi@gnus.org, jidanni@jidanni.org, 44273@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#44273: "total used in directory 19 available 5.2 GiB"
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2020 17:37:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8CE469DC-A264-4E80-8232-0EEFFE8250A3@acm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83k0v5f52w.fsf@gnu.org>

1 nov. 2020 kl. 16.51 skrev Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>:

> It isn't: that value shows the total disk space allocation, i.e. the
> file sizes are rounded up to the nearest disk block size.

It's often not even the disk block size (frequently 512 or 1024 byte regardless of the block size), and in any case that rounding does not add any valuable information.

>> but the 'file size' of a subdirectory is practically impossible to interpret in a useful way.
> 
> We are not talking about file sizes, we are talking about the "total
> NNN" part.

The 'file size' of all displayed subdirectory entries are included in that number, which makes it even more difficult to interpret.

If the size field of each displayed entry could be accurately located and parsed, then that could be used to compose a more useful and defensible 'total' number. However this does not appear likely given the variation in locales, implementations and user-supplied options.

Given the opposition to removing the field, I propose that this bug be closed with wontfix (again). Let's use our time more productively.






  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-01 16:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-10-28  5:12 bug#44273: "total used in directory 19 available 5.2 GiB" 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2020-10-28 10:37 ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-10-28 10:43   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-28 10:53     ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-10-28 11:02       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-28 11:18         ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-10-28 11:23           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-28 11:47             ` Andreas Schwab
2020-10-28 12:10               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-28 12:18                 ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-10-28 12:26                   ` Andreas Schwab
2020-10-28 12:29                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-28 15:38               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-28 15:34             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-29  8:36               ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-28 14:39           ` Drew Adams
2020-10-28 14:49             ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-10-28 15:28         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-30 11:36           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-30 11:41             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-31  9:44           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-28 15:19     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-28 15:55       ` Stefan Kangas
2020-10-28 15:59         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-29  0:03           ` Stefan Kangas
2020-10-29  3:34             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-29  8:48               ` Andreas Schwab
2020-10-30  3:05               ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-30  7:18                 ` Juri Linkov
2020-10-30  8:17                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-30 11:33                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-30 11:39                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-30 11:41                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-30 11:49                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-01 11:33                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-31 19:14                           ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-01 11:38                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-11-01 11:55                               ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-11-01 15:21                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-01 15:41                                   ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-11-01 15:51                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-01 16:37                                       ` Mattias Engdegård [this message]
2020-11-01 19:25                                         ` Jean Louis
2021-10-11 12:35                                         ` Stefan Kangas
2020-11-01 19:16                                     ` Jean Louis
2020-11-01 18:57                                   ` Jean Louis
2020-11-01 19:33                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-01 19:38                               ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2020-11-01 19:43                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-11-01 19:51                                   ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2020-10-31  4:47                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-30 19:03                   ` Drew Adams
2020-11-03  3:17                     ` Drew Adams
2020-11-03 18:39                       ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-03 19:51                         ` Drew Adams
2020-11-04 19:41                           ` Juri Linkov
2020-11-04 20:53                             ` Drew Adams
2020-10-30 11:34       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-29  4:54 ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-30 12:22   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-10-30 12:25     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-30 13:39       ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-30 13:46         ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-10-30 14:54           ` Michael Albinus
2020-10-31  0:12           ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2020-10-31  4:45             ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-31  4:47         ` Richard Stallman
2020-10-31  4:47     ` Richard Stallman

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