From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Gillespie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#60559: 29.0.60; "Cannot activate tree-sitter" spam Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2023 08:59:00 -0600 Message-ID: <89480.1672930740@hassadar.pretzelnet.org> References: <84973.1672843723@hassadar.pretzelnet.org> <83wn62xi3k.fsf@gnu.org> <877cy2841j.fsf@gmx.net> <83mt6yxdq0.fsf@gnu.org> <87358q82fx.fsf@gmx.net> <83ilhlxz2g.fsf@gnu.org> <867cy1a0vj.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83bkndxvi7.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5337"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 60559@debbugs.gnu.org, stephen.berman@gmx.net, Juri Linkov To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 06 06:24:35 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pDfDW-0001DY-Tn for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2023 06:24:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pDfD8-0001MA-2U; Fri, 06 Jan 2023 00:24:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pDfD2-0001Lc-1J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2023 00:24:04 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pDfD1-0004NT-Pj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2023 00:24:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pDfD1-0008T7-Jp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2023 00:24:03 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Eric Gillespie Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2023 05:24:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 60559 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix notabug Original-Received: via spool by 60559-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B60559.167298260032459 (code B ref 60559); Fri, 06 Jan 2023 05:24:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 60559) by debbugs.gnu.org; 6 Jan 2023 05:23:20 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53485 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pDfCI-0008RR-QX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2023 00:23:20 -0500 Original-Received: from relay2-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.194]:52727) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pDRi2-0001GD-2u for 60559@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2023 09:59:11 -0500 Original-Received: (Authenticated sender: epg@pretzelnet.org) by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 73B404001A; Thu, 5 Jan 2023 14:59:02 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=pretzelnet.org; s=gm1; t=1672930743; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=tizCqdjX4CBAgl4vWcQt3Yh7WHuSiU+9RR53RFEHMSM=; b=eKWdq9/1AvDoQVri3QHWWIzAcMQeFzGmAjkrYk3rmRTiop7cSUMkuCOWAtotu6EXtQin9u mh/bUmoZtcLRk82aNRT4Y/cSU8SoyRz62V2n+FAGWQAC+3bpYxfQSFRJZQohfJzEIYWk53 occAG1c/ykwJ86fCqJ6zw6XemjNisePsF77j1HxJ0OqhARKmdJjgeEDWX1nho5BBonuIzc jvi8lWjlPRTRm/AVrKNgH/FfRDB2rVnQ0Q+8P4p5loL3laGi3GA35Ld6dHzXRzqcmh8Pjp 63QVKA/2gl0ftZ5+JapKKLrAEGd3ZVZuAqfkafNtiG8PQaHntGl6DRoN8A57IA== In-reply-to: <83bkndxvi7.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.7+dev; GNU Emacs 28.1 Content-ID: <89479.1672930739.1@hassadar.pretzelnet.org> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 06 Jan 2023 00:23:17 -0500 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:252652 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > thanks You're welcome. > This is not a bug. Okay. > Because I don't want to risk any breakage by last-minute changes. Do > we want to release Emacs 29 soon, or do we want to keep developing it > for another year? It seems to me the safest approach for a release is the conservative approach. The more gradual a change, the less likely an embarassing release or rushed follow-on patch release. All this discussion has been interesting, but it seems to me it is mostly focused on a world where not only tree-sitter is common, but all those grammar libraries are as well! I think very few emacs users in 2023 live in that world. If emacs was configured with tree-sitter, it seems productive to warn the user when tree-sitter grammars are missing. It seems likely that user intended to have tree-sitter. When emacs is NOT configured with tree-sitter, it seems counter-productive to warn about missing tree-sitter. I even pass --without-tree-sitter to configure now. It seems particularly surprising to me that I explicitly tell emacs "don't use tree-sitter" and then it immediately starts complaining to me that it doesn't have tree-sitter. Thanks everyone!