From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#10542: 24.0.92; `Search' field in Customize Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 08:36:32 -0800 Message-ID: <890A57BEB312490092985FB6F1CD81FA@us.oracle.com> References: <87ehuld2b5.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1327682266 24725 80.91.229.12 (27 Jan 2012 16:37:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 16:37:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 10542@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'Chong Yidong'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 27 17:37:40 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rqonz-00085B-Iq for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 17:37:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44126 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rqony-00054S-TQ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 11:37:38 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:54791) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rqonq-00052f-H8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 11:37:36 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rqonj-0006Vj-TW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 11:37:30 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:41583) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rqonj-0006Va-S3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 11:37:23 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1RqooL-0006yc-UH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 11:38:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 16:38:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10542 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 10542-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10542.132768225126778 (code B ref 10542); Fri, 27 Jan 2012 16:38:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 10542) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Jan 2012 16:37:31 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46970 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rqonq-0006xq-58 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 11:37:30 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet15.oracle.com ([141.146.126.227]:35877) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rqonj-0006xV-Vk for 10542@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 11:37:28 -0500 Original-Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by acsinet15.oracle.com (Switch-3.4.4/Switch-3.4.4) with ESMTP id q0RGabqW012693 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 27 Jan 2012 16:36:38 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q0RGaatL005252 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 27 Jan 2012 16:36:37 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt104.oracle.com (abhmt104.oracle.com [141.146.116.56]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id q0RGaZPU028200; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 10:36:35 -0600 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/10.159.35.238) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 27 Jan 2012 08:36:35 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <87ehuld2b5.fsf@gnu.org> Thread-Index: AczcxnMfLUVbYojJSt2c5zY9rvwk+gASbK+A X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-CT-RefId: str=0001.0A090204.4F22D296.00DB,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:56088 Archived-At: > > This search field is unlike any search field a user has seen before > > (at least this user): whitespace, particularly whitespace > > at the field beginning and end, is significant (searched for). > > Please provide a precise step-by-step recipe for reproducing > the problem you have in mind, starting from emacs -Q. I did that: > click the mouse somewhere in the middle or at the end of > the search field, type a word/symbol, and click `Search', > only to see "No matches". Since that and the other descriptions I gave of the problem are apparently not enough, let me try again. 1. emacs -Q 2. M-x customize-option 3. Click mouse-1 somewhere past the beginning of the Search field. 4. Type `link' or some other substring of an option name. Resulting message: "No customizable items matching link" This is clearly unusual and unexpected behavior - and unexplained. As I said, this is clearly a feature - good, not bad. But it needs to be made clear to the user. I proposed some ways in which that could be done. Most users are not used to whitespace, particularly leading and trailing whitespace, being significant in a search field, without the use of delimiters such as quotes. Additionally, any no-hit message should clearly delimit the search string: wrap it in `...' or highlight it or something, to set it off from the message text that refers to it. The search string is, in fact, being quoted without any quote indication.