From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sven Joachim Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#8492: 23.3; Time to use a different binding for completion? Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 16:49:52 +0200 Message-ID: <87zknlnfjj.fsf@turtle.gmx.de> References: <87zknuhxl4.fsf@sc3d.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1303312078 11501 80.91.229.12 (20 Apr 2011 15:07:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 15:07:58 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 8492@debbugs.gnu.org, Reuben Thomas To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 20 17:07:53 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QCZ0H-0007CI-Uh for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 17:07:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33807 helo=lists2.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QCZ0H-00059y-C9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 11:07:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:36233) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QCZ0A-000599-Bk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 11:07:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QCZ05-0008OP-K8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 11:07:34 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:57868) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QCZ05-0008OK-EY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 11:07:29 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QCYkA-00044m-Fd; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 10:51:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Sven Joachim Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 14:51:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8492 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 8492-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8492.130331101015609 (code B ref 8492); Wed, 20 Apr 2011 14:51:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 8492) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Apr 2011 14:50:10 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QCYjJ-00043h-Oj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 10:50:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.22]) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QCYjG-00043A-Mg for 8492@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 10:50:07 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 20 Apr 2011 14:49:59 -0000 Original-Received: from p4FC76597.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO turtle.gmx.de) [79.199.101.151] by mail.gmx.net (mp008) with SMTP; 20 Apr 2011 16:49:59 +0200 X-Authenticated: #28250155 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+XaRATopCXAZ3v2vC8nRCj4Nv84ECfMWJQiH/3+J YP0KbYPW1KE1Hv Original-Received: by turtle.gmx.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D844A3F855; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 16:49:52 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Wed, 20 Apr 2011 11:16:32 -0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110015 (No Gnus v0.15) Emacs/23.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 10:51:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:45887 Archived-At: On 2011-04-20 16:16 +0200, Stefan Monnier wrote: >>> Since this problem has been around for a long time and no good key has >>> popped up during this time, I believe that using TAB is the >>> way forward, which means we need to figure out ways to make it work in >>> the cases where it currently doesn't. >> I am inclined to agree that that is the path of least resistance; I >> think it remains to be demonstrated that two lots of magic can be >> loaded on to the same key, but I'm prepared to give it a go! > > Of course, pursuing this route doesn't preclude pursuing other routes at > the same time. So, people should feel free to suggest other keys to use > for completion. > > One that comes to mind is C-M-/ (currently bound to dabbrev-completion, > so somewhat compatible) but I'm not sure if it's convenient enough. With a German keyboard layout, C-M-/ is horribly cumbersome to type, much more inconvenient than either ESC TAB or C-M-i (I usually use the latter). Sven