From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19731: 24.4; /dev/null is deleted by tramp-sh.el Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2015 09:34:18 +0100 Message-ID: <87zj8vz94l.fsf@gmx.de> References: <87r3u8k065.fsf@gmx.de> <87mw4wjyqi.fsf@gmx.de> <87h9v4jxde.fsf@gmx.de> <87d25sjwgj.fsf@gmx.de> <87d25s2ium.fsf@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1422952518 23825 80.91.229.3 (3 Feb 2015 08:35:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 08:35:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 19731@debbugs.gnu.org To: crocket Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 03 09:35:17 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YIYx0-0007OU-7M for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Feb 2015 09:35:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58171 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YIYwz-0004FE-Ds for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 03 Feb 2015 03:35:13 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52025) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YIYwr-0004Aj-FB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Feb 2015 03:35:09 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YIYwo-0002eA-PT for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Feb 2015 03:35:05 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:41431) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YIYwo-0002ck-MA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Feb 2015 03:35:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YIYwo-0006rf-2Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 03 Feb 2015 03:35:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Michael Albinus Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2015 08:35:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19731 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 19731-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19731.142295247826354 (code B ref 19731); Tue, 03 Feb 2015 08:35:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19731) by debbugs.gnu.org; 3 Feb 2015 08:34:38 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60904 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YIYwQ-0006r0-2p for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Feb 2015 03:34:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:52482) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YIYwL-0006qk-VP for 19731@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 03 Feb 2015 03:34:34 -0500 Original-Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([87.146.50.8]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MDyFr-1YR8ao3q2B-00HKxP; Tue, 03 Feb 2015 09:34:22 +0100 In-Reply-To: (crocket's message of "Tue, 3 Feb 2015 12:06:23 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:9fvA4LEIrm9AcYhvjTMug5mWdDqhmypasHC4NNEkMDqrKfDzLC3 y63AacGmoHi6ZZ0d9a9IBo063gSmMyzek8BTE8PaSzUN9kR+j//ObP9bleJ1hJEt7MrL6vv SfLWqKXaM5S4XiLZlPPGMcOTIU+GUDzVa7Rc6QeBmzF+JB5MrErYDTgcs49yr5RZ9pQxjBL obICdtXp2Di8tlgx/VbjA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1; X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:99008 Archived-At: crocket writes: > Unsetting HISTFILE and setting HISTFILESIZE to 0 disables history > logging altogether on bash. HISTFILESIZE is bashism. Other shells use HISTSIZE. > On Feb 3, 2015 5:08 AM, "Glenn Morris" wrote: > > http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/utilities/fc.html > > says that > > If the HISTFILE variable is not set, the shell may attempt to > access > or create a file .sh_history in the directory referred to by the > HOME > environment variable. > > and indeed by experiment with bash 4.2.45, that is exactly what > happes > with HISTFILE unset and using "bash --posix". > > So (probably) you can't win. Now, when I unset HISTFILE in Tramp, I also set HISTFILESIZE and HISTSIZE to 0. And hope it works with most shells. Praying won't help. Best regards, Michael.