From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18255: Selecting a group with RET vs gnus-thread-hide-subtree Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 20:15:27 +0100 Message-ID: <87ziiflzn4.fsf@gnus.org> References: <84r40lfksg.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1485371884 30812 195.159.176.226 (25 Jan 2017 19:18:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 19:18:04 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 18255@debbugs.gnu.org To: Carlos Pita Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 25 20:17:56 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWT4a-00063G-GP for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 20:17:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34044 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cWT4f-0002d2-PN for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 14:17:41 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42463) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cWT39-0001Hq-Kw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 14:16:13 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cWT34-00034T-Ls for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 14:16:07 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:45175) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cWT34-00034P-IQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 14:16:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWT34-0004SO-CH; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 14:16:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2017 19:16:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 18255 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 18255-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B18255.148537173917101 (code B ref 18255); Wed, 25 Jan 2017 19:16:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 18255) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Jan 2017 19:15:39 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43373 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWT2h-0004Rl-8r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 14:15:39 -0500 Original-Received: from hermes.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.195]:43783) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWT2f-0004Rd-Ii for 18255@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 14:15:38 -0500 Original-Received: from 2.150.50.220.tmi.telenormobil.no ([2.150.50.220] helo=mouse) by hermes.netfonds.no with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cWT2b-0007TS-OR; Wed, 25 Jan 2017 20:15:36 +0100 In-Reply-To: <84r40lfksg.fsf@gmail.com> (Carlos Pita's message of "Tue, 12 Aug 2014 18:41:19 -0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:128474 Archived-At: Carlos Pita writes: > Selecting with RET is supposed not to select any article in the summary > buffer. Nevertheless, if the first article in the summary is an > unseen/unread article belonging to a thread, then that thread is > expanded, even if gnus-thread-hide-subtree is t. To make things more > confusing, the little > at the left fringe is shown in the last article > of the summary, not the first. I've never noticed that thing in the fringe. :-) What sets it? > I think a more sensible behavior is: > > 1) Show the > at the article SPACE (as opposed to RET) would have > selected, but without really selecting it. > > 2) Don't expand any thread at all (that is, when selecting the group > with RET). > > Implementing just 1 will be a second best at least, because one can > interpret this behavior as kinda "selecting without showing". But the > current behavior is misleading: nothing seems to be selected, but there > is an arrow pointing to the last article, despite the point is in the > first one and the first thread is expanded => pretty messy. Yes, I think 2) makes most sense. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no