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From: Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: rms@gnu.org, 32643@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#32643: 26; minor-mode variables
Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2018 22:07:38 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zhwsg2s5.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <494224f1-815f-4fb4-a779-75e243b519f0@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Thu, 6 Sep 2018 07:18:45 -0700 (PDT)")

Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

> And that "should" is not respected by some variables from basic
> Emacs itself - in particular `auto-fill-mode'. Shouldn't it be?
>
> Nothing requires everything in the Emacs distribution to respect
> each convention that Emacs sets forth. But is there a reason why
> `auto-fill-mode' (and others?) should not respect this convention?
> If nothing else, I'm curious why the exception(s).

Applying common sense, the obvious explanation is that auto-fill-mode
controls only a single variable (i.e., `auto-fill-function'), and adding
an extra `auto-fill-mode' which would then have to be kept in sync just
to conform to some convention is not worth the trouble.

> (The bug report also asks whether it's a bug for a mode not to have
> a variable, and suggests that it is. And if it's not, the report asks that
> the Elisp manual give some guidance about when a mode should
> not or need not have a variable.)

I don't think the Elisp manual needs to fill in for user's common sense
by telling them they are free to break conventions if it makes sense to
do so.  The fact that it's a "convention" and not a "requirement" should
be enough.






  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-09-08  2:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-05 15:13 bug#32643: 26; minor-mode variables Drew Adams
2018-09-06  5:51 ` Richard Stallman
2018-09-06 14:18   ` Drew Adams
2018-09-06 14:33     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-08  2:07     ` Noam Postavsky [this message]
2018-09-08  2:25       ` Drew Adams
2018-09-09 20:33         ` Noam Postavsky
2018-09-09 22:09           ` Drew Adams
2018-09-12  0:51             ` Noam Postavsky
2018-09-12  1:46               ` Drew Adams
2018-09-13  3:32               ` Richard Stallman
2018-09-13 13:28                 ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2018-09-09  6:05       ` Richard Stallman
2018-09-09 14:12         ` Drew Adams
2018-09-10  7:27           ` Andreas Röhler
     [not found]   ` <<494224f1-815f-4fb4-a779-75e243b519f0@default>
     [not found]     ` <<83sh2mwv8w.fsf@gnu.org>
2018-09-06 14:51       ` Drew Adams
2018-09-06 18:35         ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]   ` <<<494224f1-815f-4fb4-a779-75e243b519f0@default>
     [not found]     ` <<<83sh2mwv8w.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]       ` <<488f04e4-8389-459b-b3c7-603e48bed452@default>
     [not found]         ` <<83lg8ewk2c.fsf@gnu.org>
2018-09-07  0:10           ` Drew Adams
2018-09-07  6:40             ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-09-08  5:13             ` Richard Stallman
2018-09-08 13:58               ` Drew Adams
2018-09-08 17:53                 ` Andreas Röhler
     [not found]   ` <<<<494224f1-815f-4fb4-a779-75e243b519f0@default>
     [not found]     ` <<<<83sh2mwv8w.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]       ` <<<488f04e4-8389-459b-b3c7-603e48bed452@default>
     [not found]         ` <<<83lg8ewk2c.fsf@gnu.org>
     [not found]           ` <<fb9c0be1-c9da-4cf8-aab3-fd54a0a97e68@default>
     [not found]             ` <<83lg8dvmia.fsf@gnu.org>
2018-09-07 15:07               ` Drew Adams

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