From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#36940: tests slowness and failure after recent Tramp changes Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2019 21:16:09 +0200 Message-ID: <87zhkmf6km.fsf@gmx.de> References: <57e233fe-19e9-6eac-7fd5-7e181879d4df@cs.ucla.edu> <87h86uh2l6.fsf@gmx.de> <1bec46f5-01e7-5ea4-5562-501185d80ecf@cs.ucla.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="5113"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 36940@debbugs.gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 06 21:17:10 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hv4xJ-0001BM-7R for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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s=badeba3b8450; t=1565118972; bh=lPp8pDd0kQrqY6bD0jANymgW5tzv2QbfxQcfE1uCbgk=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=Hyg76y1quHngvCMGxiwHrtnoIluOJ7cqtWFSEcEzMo/Uy58sYcE++5b0Ekj9zlThQ yn1TVEVQsoTOv6UMyazzKqJYEyOD51ZkIoTlbT1/E7HhO64WeY7u6yQ9DIM2k0pA3J YaM4zTbVri2pDqrNCxD/yucRYxw9oqgfts+hYCr8= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Original-Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([212.91.249.250]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1N49h5-1iL1o512iv-0105Ig; Tue, 06 Aug 2019 21:16:12 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1bec46f5-01e7-5ea4-5562-501185d80ecf@cs.ucla.edu> (Paul Eggert's message of "Tue, 6 Aug 2019 09:13:05 -0700") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:y49JidjbLrXG4F5vVdezE5n715bOdNAbXpazifwkVRRhR4NmkL1 hilEQeQfnhJqiK7r3s7dWoQbygiab5mmIJ21qoCuPvW1V2WjWUBwpm10+92zPPZ1GBpk5SA IkcZyjw2il/IxDWcYWlW9l5k2mVxFtTZPeY+V0rl8hGt5SlUB3F4jwY+/kOgmXjIDcPMJ1j +l7VqBE0MXX4R7dDQLieg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:iKS2wc3TbH0=:krXpnP5s/fN5tDSYc/ruXf 4/DpZxKWHsBI9pADpTFoNiTJW/HcLqFqrxZGzLu80RmtOg5la8M0frMAxDDqwPDqvgWZbSYko tXDRjM2/NbgGxBSvBuH6+HbFZcK/GaabR9wA8hHFBBjloVLy4XVKhsRz/Hy+9UQ8Tq2e6iQXT i6jysn+HZSTSWCz/EhwmRLNIPlcHwE58U1/j9fQWrltkndfNLOkQclTs5kLAJuSfYmmxpgG7S iy50j77fMXU/gLSxfH+mIJxn82sIehi284U2CsqqsJD+trQKwdoxlKh3EYpIlC/rwdsh97HHi TKjCzQBgIIUnekjUDX6bZf7cUN5R/MB/pl4K5o/Pqnk/k6v6WkVya82IkxESQvP/uYcSG4ZMg O5ipX5/CSHV0tceUj9GdvrVArIBYa1ZuY3IhRCoo3peU8t/ttH+75v0Kajn+ZkUX1LmUoJp1u P6MGCymOi7u80/WYBWUpz6fLYyAPSLtyqOrB+kS9iJdt4Dv9PpCb/VvpnMu1OkkG+1CrOmfXZ bpiX82G5+kMURsY3FrH9nhFSeQRfujoIOuDkDM7SF15AI2UZF5+AsUdEsOg9K0zIg1tYHCWHy PMCr8aWElEGZMJZ/mvUHh1g0Ml1HXs7p3AAbX9Cl10mFzanuW5K7yq8u3b+YvJ6u86EQSsWQy hUCCio5B+TefqGIar3PDlYGTXlJcU1wRLQ6SZPCQcrT+Xjna7C6vBAELjtdGfloTHGNpnFcG9 eEqIuSZJWhrNPlUeIFVU3s7NRKwdB6b4KtWbdxxK6WBdWPhLr00OYfI88RmoxXtbIGPGOXo2 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:164691 Archived-At: Paul Eggert writes: Hi Paul, >> If you want to run the >> default tests, which are active while "make check", you must use the >> default selector. See test/README. > > Thanks, I didn't know that. But that's confusing, as it's natural to > assume that if FOO is an individual check, then 'make FOO' will run it > the same way that 'make check' would. Would it make sense to change > this test to be more natural? It is intended this way. If I call 'make FOO', I'm interested in package FOO. For example, because I have changed something in FOO, and I want to know that I didn't break anything. Expensive tests are part of this. This is the most applied use case of 'make FOO'. At least I call it several times a week for exactly this reason. That's why we have the behavior as it is. All of this has been discussed already, somewhere in the emacs-devel ML archives. Best regards, Michael.