From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#26455: Emacs Packaging Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2019 02:58:09 +0100 Message-ID: <87zhh7w2mm.fsf@marxist.se> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="205145"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Muto , 26455@debbugs.gnu.org To: Glenn Morris Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 08 02:59:12 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iStYN-000rG2-2x for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Nov 2019 02:59:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49220 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iStYL-0004Xy-T3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Original-Received: from h-70-69.a785.priv.bahnhof.se ([155.4.70.69]:39188 helo=localhost) by host.gofardesign.uk with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1iStXP-0002Ek-Jn; Thu, 07 Nov 2019 19:58:12 -0600 In-Reply-To: (Glenn Morris's message of "Wed, 12 Apr 2017 15:39:13 -0400") X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host.gofardesign.uk X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - debbugs.gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - marxist.se X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: host.gofardesign.uk: authenticated_id: stefan@marxist.se X-Authenticated-Sender: host.gofardesign.uk: stefan@marxist.se X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:171145 Archived-At: Glenn Morris writes: > Muto wrote: > >> Although technically not a bug, the "Download" section in the Emacs >> website is somewhat vague in describing how to install Emacs in >> GNU/Linux. Rather than the options "build from source" or "use an >> older version", I believe Emacs should ship packaged with a tool such >> as >> AppImage (http://appimage.org) >> Or FlatPak (http://flatpak.org). >> This way installation on GNU/Linux systems would be simplified >> significantly and on top of that users would have easy access to the >> latest version rather than installing from a repository. > > Staying paranoid as requested: > > Do these approaches mean that the Emacs developers then become > responsible for shipping all the required dependent libraries, > monitoring them for security issues, and updating them when needed, > rather than relying on the distribution to do that? > >> --Stay paranoid, and happy hacking! -Muto Glenn Morris writes: > PS If these technologies take off, this perhaps feels like something > that should be addressed at the GNU level rather than the Emacs level. > (Perhaps guix already provides some version of this?) While I think this is not a bad idea in and of itself, I think this is beyond the scope of the Emacs project at the moment given our scarce resources. Or perhaps it's better addressed at the GNU level as Glenn suggests. I'd therefore suggest to close this as wontfix. Any other opinions? Best regards, Stefan Kangas