From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#38457: 27.0.50; dabbrev-expand regression due to message change Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2019 00:58:15 +0200 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <87zhfxm9rs.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <8736e3vve8.fsf@gmx.net> <837e3ckbem.fsf@gnu.org> <871rtjn0kt.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83lfrrigj8.fsf@gnu.org> <87eexiqps5.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83lfrphp94.fsf@gnu.org> <87wob7g2jk.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83k177ebs0.fsf@gnu.org> <87muc27prn.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83tv6acgq5.fsf@gnu.org> <87eexdoygh.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83tv68c0nb.fsf@gnu.org> <83h828b0lz.fsf@gnu.org> <83eexcax6b.fsf@gnu.org> <835zinbkct.fsf@gnu.org> <83zhfyakwd.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="90101"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: 38457@debbugs.gnu.org, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca To: HaiJun Zhang Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 13 00:46:57 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1ifYAb-000NFt-Nv for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 13 Dec 2019 00:46:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38588 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ifYAa-0003pY-Fb for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 18:46:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42041) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ifY9s-0003LG-12 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 18:46:13 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ifY9m-0001Ik-Qf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 18:46:10 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:55079) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ifY9j-0001G7-Fp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 18:46:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ifY9j-0004xc-EO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 18:46:03 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2019 23:46:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 38457 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 38457-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B38457.157619432918912 (code B ref 38457); Thu, 12 Dec 2019 23:46:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 38457) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Dec 2019 23:45:29 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32805 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ifY9A-0004ux-Th for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 18:45:29 -0500 Original-Received: from camel.birch.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.209.29]:18663) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ifY99-0004up-EF for 38457@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 18:45:27 -0500 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org Original-Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52599142335; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 23:45:26 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a65.g.dreamhost.com (100-96-88-132.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.88.132]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id B314214232B; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 23:45:25 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a65.g.dreamhost.com ([TEMPUNAVAIL]. [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.18.5); Thu, 12 Dec 2019 23:45:26 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Spot-Supply: 46fec69b404fce87_1576194325972_428653755 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1576194325971:403164010 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1576194325971 Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a65.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a65.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 715067F223; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 15:45:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=linkov.net; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=linkov.net; bh=iEdF1UsM1ZsspLtuA/QxEcoGGjs=; b= wBlZod/NIRK0p8vEcYBd2QBQsw2/O9ytmjzcrVYex0+tD3AuTCHVxuTVfL3gl2ie 9fIw0EEySmE+gnyg5yE3KHOtYbH50N8kUU9721taQ3kx8Ap1Q9Qux9SpcgUJzmKq CkgkwgXE10adg9MIo8xoR/Ne3tahCy3+GaPAm9v4wlw= Original-Received: from mail.jurta.org (m91-129-96-42.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.96.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jurta@jurta.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a65.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EF3267F21C; Thu, 12 Dec 2019 15:45:17 -0800 (PST) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a65 In-Reply-To: (HaiJun Zhang's message of "Thu, 12 Dec 2019 12:33:09 +0800") X-VR-OUT-STATUS: OK X-VR-OUT-SCORE: -100 X-VR-OUT-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedufedrudelkedgudehucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuggftfghnshhusghstghrihgsvgdpffftgfetoffjqffuvfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmnecujfgurhephffvufhofhffjgfkfgggtgesthdtredttdertdenucfhrhhomheplfhurhhiucfnihhnkhhovhcuoehjuhhriheslhhinhhkohhvrdhnvghtqeenucfkphepledurdduvdelrdeliedrgedvnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhhouggvpehsmhhtphdphhgvlhhopehmrghilhdrjhhurhhtrgdrohhrghdpihhnvghtpeeluddruddvledrleeirdegvddprhgvthhurhhnqdhprghthheplfhurhhiucfnihhnkhhovhcuoehjuhhriheslhhinhhkohhvrdhnvghtqedpmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehjuhhriheslhhinhhkohhvrdhnvghtpdhnrhgtphhtthhopehnvghtjhhunhgvsehouhhtlhhoohhkrdgtohhmnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptd X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:173231 Archived-At: > The importance levels for me: > > (1) Inputing in minibuffer > (2) Inputing in buffer window > (3) Messages in minibuffer window > > I think messages(In (3)) should not disturb (1). Because they are so less important. > And when user is busy editing in (2), he may never notice messages in > minibuffer because they are cleared quickly. So important messages > should not use minibuffer. They should use mode-line or something else. Really important messages should be displayed permanently in a pop-up window like display-delayed-warnings and display-warning.