From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#38111: 27.0.50; globalized-minor-mode not enabled on get-buffer-create Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 13:06:27 +0200 Message-ID: <87zh5koggc.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87sgmzqs5z.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83y2wqd7ec.fsf@gnu.org> <87fthvhhj3.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <835ziqep0g.fsf@gnu.org> <87k176xxjh.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="27348"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: psainty@orcon.net.nz, 38111@debbugs.gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 20 13:07:20 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kJxBf-00070E-64 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 13:07:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37272 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kJxBe-0002kQ-8C for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 07:07:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40694) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kJxBQ-0002jf-CK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 07:07:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:37376) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kJxBO-0004eY-K7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 07:07:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kJxBO-00037C-FP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 07:07:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 11:07:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 38111 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 38111-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B38111.160060000211917 (code B ref 38111); Sun, 20 Sep 2020 11:07:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 38111) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Sep 2020 11:06:42 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48917 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kJxB3-000368-Rh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 07:06:42 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:59508) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kJxB2-00035r-FJ for 38111@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 07:06:41 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=z0aV2OsNGSSz/7ZBPsnXR3oQIpnnM79kRQ57LC+UemY=; b=AzQp34durC2/OEdBueWaRCwul+ EbXdTdrl56odMeGqamrG5PTfadS4g0uSmNLbIg6y9QQfh1bN2kr1fnaoexlswXclKlxwf2vKwXvMM OVFJm406jwPdZJ6gZYpMi8J2FIWbc3Qyo5Nl0ipi6fC74nT2YMFtzcvHZisod1rGaQXI=; Original-Received: from cm-84.212.202.86.getinternet.no ([84.212.202.86] helo=xo) by quimby with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kJxAq-0006gp-Rq; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 13:06:33 +0200 X-Now-Playing: Act's _Laughter, Tears and Rage_: "Gestures" In-Reply-To: <87k176xxjh.fsf@mail.linkov.net> (Juri Linkov's message of "Mon, 09 Dec 2019 00:27:52 +0200") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:188495 Archived-At: Juri Linkov writes: >>> The following patch fixes this, but I'm still not sure if we need >>> to grep all occurrences of get-buffer-create and add set-buffer-major-mode >>> everywhere? >> >> This is a problem with all globalized minor modes, right? > > Yes, with all globalized minor modes. > > So I installed the patch that fixes this particular case, > and leaving this bug report open waiting for a more general solution. I don't think a general solution is really possible here. We don't want any get-buffer-create to run the globalised modes -- that would be slow and awkward. We only want those to run in buffers that users actually end up using, and I think that's something the modes themselves must somehow decide. So I don't think there's any realistic progress to be made in this bug report, and I'm closing it. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no