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From: Zhiwei Chen <condy0919@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: 50331@debbugs.gnu.org, andlind@gmail.com
Subject: bug#50331: 28.0.50; Propose to obsolete cwarn.el
Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2021 16:12:03 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zgsvbdm4.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8335qnphc4.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 02 Sep 2021 10:27:55 +0300")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Zhiwei Chen <condy0919@gmail.com>
>> Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2021 14:30:44 +0800
>> Cc: andlind@gmail.com
>> 
>> # conclusion
>> 
>> Since the first two cases are not existent, and the last one is false
>> positive (IMO), I propose to obsolete cwarn.
>
> I don't understand how you arrived at that conclusion.  cwarn provides
> the diagnostics while you write the code, without any need to invoke
> the compiler, and potentially long before you submit the code to the
> compiler.  Some people might prefer that, so why inconvenience them?

Why would I like to obsolete cwarn?

Actually, I'm making an introduction to Emacs builtin modes (in Chinese)
to see how powerful the vanilla Emacs is. But I found, Emacs is not so
orthogonal in functionality. e.g., `whitespace-mode' provides
`whitespace-cleanup' while simple.el has `delete-trailing-whitespace'.
Is it time to do subtraction for Emacs? There are too many packages
merged into Emacs, but a few are removed from Emacs (to elpa maybe).

The main reason for obsoleting cwarn is that its functionality can be
superseded by flycheck/flymake. The result of
https://grep.app/search?q=cwarn-mode shows that there are few users of
cwarn. Of course this result may be wrong, after all https://grep.app/
only searches the git repo and all data on the Internet. The safe way to
do this is to raise a poll and let the community decide if cwarn should
be removed. Since Emacs is such a monster of 40yrs, the expected result
is that most users never know there is a package named cwarn.

[1]: https://emacs-china.org/t/emacs-builtin-mode/11937

-- 
Zhiwei Chen





  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-02  8:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-02  6:30 bug#50331: 28.0.50; Propose to obsolete cwarn.el Zhiwei Chen
2021-09-02  7:27 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-02  8:12   ` Zhiwei Chen [this message]
2021-09-02  8:28     ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-09-02  8:51       ` Zhiwei Chen
2021-09-02 11:10 ` Anders Lindgren
2021-09-02 16:12   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-09-03  6:18 ` bug#50331: [Anders Lindgren] " Zhiwei Chen

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