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Tue, 30 Nov 2021 15:07:32 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87r1az12zy.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 29 Nov 2021 14:54:25 +0100") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:xsfDhPV7ofZwZLsSIflE1a31sud1AmD8r3NSa4qFTOAdMEoriJt /4JCTjLAlX3n35i7UAubXpldZcxcqCRhuVfnGyPx1NVgFEpYGAn6ruY2iYNtQv8hoEH4Qse kOfqbC5FHqvp5zblUdo55O4Uqc76XuiHrV6ijhb76pqGT27OBdbK6uW35NTyEdDIniXJ8QB YAhKcl6oRuROII6HgmpTw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:o5uSp23U3a4=:dkizaUYqarr85ondYCuOSK 7w8evCfWm0GbogQCupLFD/aR6/jMSOk56c3O42Ibr29Oc0Rhp8g1yrYMf9/+6wtM7pF70CqdQ 5PT9PU/TtOPAiPYtoipre38mPvvwR6w2wdOSNaMScY4gvY1Zj/csy6msi2ScwAtNxpaOQ192c RdpVWVBEuYr6JlS0FGaL+H14la/J+6FoH9pRdo8NIYbxkMKx2qelxzV6yg2G7bAZbzW+0Q8tP dt1zYKAAmpT7KHT69oTJx6598/hAsnsDXViGtPfUoHpq2X4ZQ+Y7JTXB2SIKop4zoYbOGTEHG y3+VMoIyvrQl0qSgX/k0pKXaEgL2N7d7LIDL8twqu1+OvtNwjLkFU4EJlOdfgbh+HLfuCWari OK8++3fLSYit0J+GWaLgYhLA7XVwt5NjmnP2PW2ofdGWIQcCJpeFu9CxNNnrcHSQDaWKU4fOx LRFVe6KnjxZjOUoyM7of5/YCiMfX/SNQAUN+JwwKw2z5NUERBVjHlqNhlakVn2f58zupuNIfo jmTCY1CoL0dCIjN3sIMKCOpUgnz0qLYjSXodq+bWB9sLRhxsCmiTFhf00DtGyzd3VoiQb8UuL 0KrUrtv2TLQ3wOAfs2SXGdq42eBBWnqTKUj9cmctsQaDPKvkfaq4F+BI3ty3VEfvpDnCvk8pF //NUVZpK7hdPIhd23bYWyrQ/kQnPsAS2My8earl4HPJxEHyc/yalnqmNb+pcn25IZkNcoTY+9 XemeKhEINvQ5TOVllbzs+uBWXbG2FOnrQAtuYldMU6CqZ/mQL3E1VVTLH9m5LmQtWkcTJ1GR X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:221119 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > But, yes, it would mean that people might be tempted to write actual > code like > > (lambda () > (declare (lexical-binding (foo . 1))) > ...) > > but people might be tempted to do the same with `closure' forms, and > that doesn't seem to be happening. But the above idea is a step in the direction to make closures look even more like code. Declarations are a coding thing. I think we would regret that very soon. Kind of "what happened to my lambda, who added these declarations?" (if that sounded ironically: this is not intended). Michael.