From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Matt Armstrong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#56870: [PATCH] Re: bug#56870: company-dabbrev variable documentation Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2022 10:48:47 -0700 Message-ID: <87zggjrjb4.fsf@rfc20.org> References: <83czdg2c7x.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9450"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: yet@ego.team, uzibalqa@proton.me, larsi@gnus.org, 56870@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii , YE Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 04 19:49:17 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1oJeyC-0002Gj-Tu for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2022 19:49:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35952 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oJeyB-00025w-J9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2022 13:49:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55270) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oJey0-00024u-Tr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2022 13:49:05 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:36842) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1oJexz-00056p-0G for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2022 13:49:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oJexy-0005Qe-SR for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2022 13:49:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Matt Armstrong Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2022 17:49:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 56870 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 56870-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B56870.165963534120854 (code B ref 56870); Thu, 04 Aug 2022 17:49:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 56870) by debbugs.gnu.org; 4 Aug 2022 17:49:01 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54823 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oJexw-0005QG-Ne for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2022 13:49:01 -0400 Original-Received: from relay9-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.199]:40157) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1oJexu-0005Q3-Bc for 56870@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 04 Aug 2022 13:48:59 -0400 Original-Received: (Authenticated sender: matt@rfc20.org) by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1F30FFF804; Thu, 4 Aug 2022 17:48:49 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rfc20.org; s=gm1; t=1659635332; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=m0YoYzQ00r4lsKKL/5MO3g90T1DMsr7kLJeZo8pmANo=; b=oRu7Jks/xA/P5SOd3Qyqouhs29eWS82aRyI3AMBtyKxwc55dK7AnJyBlbT3NIvKhtNvQlZ wClYUN9d7+QUlbIMVNyRlbNXPVMj3AvpWRtuKh5z2Xj98wGz+gJD8KT/TtBXJYNMWKGe2L 2MeolEkDiORAp0dxVp095aSFRjViICtBt5vsUkmenvHF2RUQ3vGi56wlKIH96iRjLjqtJL 8e1VdAn6aQHy7W4HVgWKD6mC0J0xqEWJJdxlDn9fy4GBQJWh/5PGrIRpSVAgJXeaFz6ZCM b367QzrnX3tluaMnkL9+uXSB56BDAmWEoHgCyAmnMC9E+LxUjei9LN7SwC+18g== Original-Received: from matt by naz with local (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1oJexj-000DKA-1B; Thu, 04 Aug 2022 10:48:47 -0700 In-Reply-To: <83czdg2c7x.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:238780 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Cc: yet@ego.team, uzibalqa@proton.me, larsi@gnus.org, 56870@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2022 19:06:36 +0300 >> From: YE via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, >> the Swiss army knife of text editors" >> >> My take on the 'Init File' docs improvement is attached. > > Thanks. However, this basically adds to the Emacs manual stuff whose > place is in the ELisp manual. So I'm not sure we should start on this > slippery slope. Users who need to write complex Lisp in their init > files need to read the ELisp manual anyway. Eli, perhaps a single link to the ELisp manual near the beginning of "(emacs) Init Syntax" would be acceptable? The section is describing a small subset of lisp, so I think such a link would be useful there. (Way back when I was first learning Emacs it took me quite a while before I realized that the ELisp manual existed at all.) I tend to agree with you that "(emacs) Init Syntax" isn't a great place to describe how various lisp constructs appear in help text, since it its focus is how to write lisp code. I would think that belongs somewhere under "(emacs) Help".