On Tue, 9 Aug 2022 17:03:25 -0700 Jim Porter <jporterbugs@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 8/9/2022 1:18 PM, Stephen Berman wrote:
>> On Tue, 09 Aug 2022 22:18:21 +0300 Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I noticed more problems: arrow directions are inverted - when an outline
>>> is hidden the arrow direction is open; when it's shown then the button has
>>> the closed state.
>> The arrows behave the same as in *Help* with describe-bindings:
>> outline-close (downward-pointing) when the body is hidden, outline-open
>> (leftward-pointing) when the body is shown.  Is that wrong?
    ^^^^
    right (oops)

> I think that's wrong, yes. Every GUI I'm familiar with does it the other way:
>
>   > Closed Item
>   v Open Item
>     > Closed Sub Item
>
> This is the visual style used in GNOME (at least, the theme I'm using), MS
> Windows, macOS, Firefox/Thunderbird, and probably others. More importantly,
> it's also the style Emacs already uses elsewhere: see the Customize UI.

Ah, of course, I didn't even think to look there (oops again).