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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID ee3962290a7dcdb8776aea3403ad3211; Thu, 13 Oct 2022 12:19:48 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (uzibalqa@proton.me's message of "Thu, 13 Oct 2022 12:09:02 +0000") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.20740 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:245300 Archived-At: uzibalqa writes: > You can't even tell me which process is producing them and where. Because I don't know? How would I know what is installed on your system? > Emacs should take the user's setting in the init file rather than override them > with bullshit that you reckon has authority. Did you bother to read the X(7) manual page at all? If not, I suggest grabbing a copy off here: https://www.x.org/archive/X11R7.7/doc/man/man7/X.7.xhtml#heading14 When you run Emacs with _nothing_ in your init file, there will be nothing there to take priority over X resources.