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Sun, 4 Jun 2023 15:21:47 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <83mt1f5rab.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 04 Jun 2023 15:46:20 +0300") Autocrypt: addr=philipk@posteo.net; keydata= mDMEZBBQQhYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAHJuofBrfqFh12uQu0Yi7mrl525F28eTmwUDflFNmdui0QlBo aWxpcCBLYWx1ZGVyY2ljIChnZW5lcmF0ZWQgYnkgYXV0b2NyeXB0LmVsKSA8cGhpbGlwa0Bwb3N0 ZW8ubmV0PoiWBBMWCAA+FiEEDg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwMFCQHhM4AFCwkI BwIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwulikAEA77hloUiSrXgFkUVJhlKBpLCHUjA0 mWZ9j9w5d08+jVwBAK6c4iGP7j+/PhbkxaEKa4V3MzIl7zJkcNNjHCXmvFcEuDgEZBBQQhIKKwYB BAGXVQEFAQEHQI5NLiLRjZy3OfSt1dhCmFyn+fN/QKELUYQetiaoe+MMAwEIB4h+BBgWCAAmFiEE Dg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwwFCQHhM4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwukm+wEA8cml4JpK NeAu65rg+auKrPOP6TP/4YWRCTIvuYDm0joBALw98AMz7/qMHvSCeU/hw9PL6u6R2EScxtpKnWof z4oM X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:262950 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: Philip Kaludercic >> Cc: artscan@list.ru, monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, 63757@debbugs.gnu.org >> Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2023 12:32:17 +0000 >> >> Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >> >> - (dolist (pkg-dir (directory-files dir t "\\`[^.]" t)) >> >> + (dolist (pkg-dir (directory-files dir t "\\`[^.]")) >> >> (when (file-directory-p pkg-dir) >> >> (package-load-descriptor pkg-dir)))))) >> >> >> >> (I attached the *vc-diff* buffer, but before sending the message I >> >> invoked vc-diff again which modified the buffer contents. Should have >> >> just copied the diff manually...) >> > >> > Thanks, now it at least makes sense. >> > >> > But why does it matter whether the package directory names are sorted >> > or not? Is sorting package versions the same as sorting the names of >> > their directories? >> >> No, because directories are sorted by their names and by that metric, >> "foo-10" is less than "foo-9". But since package archives like MELPA >> use ISO 8601-like release-dates as version numbers, the order "works". >> If we disable sorting, the files returned in any order the operating >> system might have arbitrary stored the directory entries in which might >> even change depending on the file system. So at the very least we can >> argue that while sorting does not solve the issue, it provides a quick >> hack to prevent sudden breakage from Emacs 28 to Emacs 29, due to users >> relying on this kind of behaviour. A proper solution, that takes >> version numbers into account should be prepared on the master branch. > > OK, thanks. Please install on emacs-29, and let's hope this doesn't > cause new problems. Done. Should we close the issue then, or wait for more feedback?