From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@posteo.net>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, 64696@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#64696: 30.0.50; indent-to inherits preceding text properties, including 'invisible
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2023 08:30:47 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87zg3ge8ug.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvh6pog3y1.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
> Presumably you'll also want to keep columns aligned dynamically as text
> is inserted/deleted. I suspect that once you try to do that, it's
> fairly easy to temporarily let-bind `buffer-invisibility-spec` around
> the code that inserts SPCs&TABs to enforce the "vanilla" alignment.
Sure. Org is slowly moving in that direction - separating text alignment
and visual alignment. We have a persistent stream of related feature
requests.
However, remember that this thread started with `indent-to' calculating
target column without taking into account the display staff. While the
initial column is using `current-column' and considers
composition/faces/[partially] invisibility, the number of tabs/spaces to
be inserted to reach target column are calculated assuming that each
space occupies 1 column and each tab occupies tab-width columns.
Now, when we established that Emacs indentation is visual, it is clear
that the assumption in `indent-to' is not accurate.
>> Sure, but how can an application, say, disable all the effects of visual
>> representation without (1) searching and let-binding each specific
>
> Define "disable all the effects of visual representation". I think what
> you mean is something like "pretend the text is displayed by sending it
> to an text terminal", but the width can depend on the specific text
> terminal (especially for non-ASCII Unicode chars, but also for chars <
> 32). So it's a non-trivial problem, in reality.
You are right. Probably, a good goal would be "looks aligned in
fundamental-mode".
--
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2023-07-18 7:58 bug#64696: 30.0.50; indent-to inherits preceding text properties, including 'invisible Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-18 11:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-18 12:09 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-18 13:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-18 13:25 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-18 16:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-18 16:25 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-18 17:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-19 8:30 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-19 13:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-20 9:10 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-21 8:32 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-22 6:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-22 7:09 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-22 11:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-22 14:10 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-22 14:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-22 6:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-22 7:03 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-22 11:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-22 14:05 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-22 14:28 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-23 7:30 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-23 10:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-24 8:18 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-24 13:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-25 8:38 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-25 12:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-27 8:58 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-27 9:15 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-28 8:06 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-28 11:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-29 9:00 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-29 10:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-30 7:51 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-30 9:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-30 11:45 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-30 17:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-31 7:18 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-31 11:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-28 2:53 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-07-28 8:30 ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2023-07-28 12:06 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-28 12:26 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-28 12:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-28 13:02 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-28 14:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-29 9:06 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-22 13:32 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-07-18 14:15 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-07-18 16:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-18 19:33 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-07-19 8:42 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-19 13:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-19 14:25 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-19 15:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-07-19 8:41 ` Ihor Radchenko
2023-07-19 13:51 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
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