From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#511: package for potential inclusion in emacs Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:40:36 -0400 Message-ID: <87y73r9ikr.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <7100.1216872410@dash.isi.edu> Reply-To: Chong Yidong , 511@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1216928870 32432 80.91.229.12 (24 Jul 2008 19:47:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:47:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 511@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: John Heidemann Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jul 24 21:48:39 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KM6ng-0004vW-8r for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:48:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57296 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KM6mm-0007NE-Mr for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:47:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KM6ma-0007K5-2t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:47:24 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KM6mY-0007J9-E6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:47:23 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=46674 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KM6mY-0007In-4t for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:47:22 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:34608) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KM6mX-0007U7-Er for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:47:21 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m6OJlJ2K028525; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:47:19 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id m6OJj3Nr027430; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:45:03 -0700 X-Loop: don@donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Chong Yidong Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:45:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: don@donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: report 511 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 511-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B511.121692835026157 (code B ref 511); Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:45:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 511) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 24 Jul 2008 19:39:10 +0000 Original-Received: from cyd (CYD.MIT.EDU [18.115.2.24]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id m6OJd7Ru026151 for <511@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:39:08 -0700 Original-Received: by cyd (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 879BA57E32E; Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:40:36 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <7100.1216872410@dash.isi.edu> (John Heidemann's message of "Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:06:50 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:47:23 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:18835 Archived-At: John Heidemann writes: > I have done a copyright assignment before, although I don't remember > if it was general or for a specific thing (you might search for > mouse-extras.el) or mouse-drag.el. If you're concerned, I should > probably re-do one for the notes-mode package. > > All external contributions were of the one-line, no-copyright-needed > variety. I just checked: your assignment is for general contributions to Emacs. So that's fine. However, there are a couple of doubts that make me hesitant to include notes-mode in the main Emacs distribution. Firstly, it's a moderately sized package with multiple source files, including perl scripts; for reasons of convenience and cleanliness, packages of a similar nature tend to be distributed seperately from Emacs and not bundled with it (e.g., AucTeX and preview-latex). Secondly, there are a couple of packages around that do a similar thing, such as John Wiegley's planner mode. Neither of these means that we can't ultimately include notes-mode, but I'd prefer to take some time evaluating it and discussing it on emacs-devel first. I'm really sorry you've been waiting since 2006 (!), but it may be better to schedule this for inclusion into Emacs 23.2 at the earliest, instead of Emacs 23.1 (which may be six to nine months from now, though it's not certain). In the meantime, however, we should add notes-mode to etc/MORE.STUFF. Could you send an entry for MORE.STUFF, similar to the other entries in that file? Again, I'm sorry this dropped off the radar screen after your initial message to us in 2006.