From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Berman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#6493: Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 19:02:45 +0200 Message-ID: <87y6d2jfm2.fsf@escher.home> References: <969BF38D66A0450F88923BFF8942AC68@us.oracle.com> <6B20ABD762564DE2AEBA810B54EB46FD@us.oracle.com> <21D2CFB9CFF34D04906728113DA42430@us.oracle.com> <6C93D3874C204C6BACB34962781ED1C9@us.oracle.com> <87k4ommcc6.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1279905235 16188 80.91.229.12 (23 Jul 2010 17:13:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:13:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Juanma Barranquero , 6493@debbugs.gnu.org, Deniz Dogan To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 23 19:13:53 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OcLom-0002KI-R6 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 19:13:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59354 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OcLik-00025V-1P for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:07:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=44057 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OcLiZ-00024z-Eg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:07:28 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OcLiY-0007AY-14 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:07:27 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:36490) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OcLiX-0007AT-Vp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:07:25 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OcLeH-0005Nc-UX; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:03:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stephen Berman Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:03:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6493 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 6493-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6493.127990457320674 (code B ref 6493); Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:03:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 6493) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Jul 2010 17:02:53 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OcLe8-0005NP-Iq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:02:52 -0400 Original-Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.22] helo=mail.gmx.net) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OcLe6-0005NI-E2 for 6493@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:02:51 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 23 Jul 2010 17:02:46 -0000 Original-Received: from i59F56054.versanet.de (EHLO escher.home) [89.245.96.84] by mail.gmx.net (mp006) with SMTP; 23 Jul 2010 19:02:46 +0200 X-Authenticated: #20778731 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/KKaoRDX3KAfhH8wLF9WVtq/ktj9qdpz3zXKGuIq NteFFboye2GW2z Original-Received: by escher.home (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D0A13103F0; Fri, 23 Jul 2010 19:02:45 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <87k4ommcc6.fsf@stupidchicken.com> (Chong Yidong's message of "Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:45:13 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 13:03:01 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:38837 Archived-At: On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:45:13 -0400 Chong Yidong wrote: > Juanma Barranquero writes: > >> On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 11:10, Deniz Dogan wrote: >> >>> Attached is a new patch. >> >> Thanks. >> >> Three comments: > > Aside from these points (with which I agree), the addition of "as a > nonnegative integer" is unnecessary. Point and mark are always > non-negative. Also, it is important to keep the word "position", > because mark could otherwise refer to the mark marker. I prefer: > > "Return the position of point or mark, whichever is smaller." On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:16:48 -0700 "Drew Adams" wrote: > Point _is_ a position. It is the position of the cursor. So that text speaks > about the position of the position of the cursor, which is incorrect. > > But you are correct that we do speak of "setting the mark at a position". How about this: "Return the smaller of the integer value of point or the mark." (`value' is used in the doc strings of 'point' and `mark'.) Steve Berman