unofficial mirror of bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org 
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: "Štěpán Němec" <stepnem@gmail.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: 3179@debbugs.gnu.org, jidanni@jidanni.org
Subject: bug#3179: Entering Chinese "zero": add U+3007
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2019 18:55:07 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y2xnb72s.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87eezga3oy.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sun, 13 Oct 2019 20:41:17 +0200")

On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 20:41:17 +0200
Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote:

> jidanni@jidanni.org writes:
>
>> With locale zh_TW.UTF-8 and toggle-input-method, we can type
>> Possible completion and corresponding characters are:
>>  ling2:(1/6) 1.零 2.玲 3.靈 4.鈴 5.齡 6.陵 7.凌 8.菱 9.聆 0.羚...
>>        (6/6) 1.駖 2.蕶 3.爧 4.堎 5.○
>>
>> Useful when one wants to type the year 2003:
>> 公文都有「二○○三年」,非「二零零三年」。
>>
>> But in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=427519
>> MH> You probably want "〇" (U+3007) instead of "○" (U+25CB)
>> So maybe add that in addition (not instead).
>>
>> (And 0, 0...? nah.)
>
> I know nothing about this, but the suggestion is to use
>
>   name: IDEOGRAPHIC NUMBER ZERO
>
> instead of 
>
>   name: WHITE CIRCLE
>
> I have no idea what that means.  But there's:
>
> (eval-after-load "quail/PY-b5"
>   '(quail-defrule "ling2" ?○ nil t))
>
> which has apparently been in Emacs ever since leim-ext.el was added.

Checking the commit history, the file was originally encoded in iso-2022
and I have no idea what "0!r" in that encoding amounts to, but in any
case, U+3007 is the standard way to write ideographic zero. Various
other similar-looking glyphs (in various encodings) can be found in its
place occasionally[1], but in this day and age I see no reason to
encourage that practice (so I suggest "instead", not "in addition" is
the way to go above).

[1] Cf. e.g. here (in Japanese):
https://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA000964/html/zero.htm

-- 
Štěpán (reading, writing and speaking Chinese (also as professional
translator and interpreter) and Japanese)





  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-14 16:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <87r5z8vgp1.fsf_-_@jidanni.org>
2009-05-01 18:10 ` bug#3179: Entering Chinese "zero": add U+3007 jidanni
2019-10-13 18:41   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-10-14 16:55     ` Štěpán Němec [this message]
2019-10-14 19:49       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-10-14 20:44         ` Štěpán Němec
2019-10-14 20:56           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-10-14 21:09             ` Štěpán Němec
2019-10-14 21:13               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-10-15  8:15                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-15  8:26                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-10-15  9:51                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-15 12:00                       ` Štěpán Němec
2019-10-15 13:00                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-10-26 10:12                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-16 12:45                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-28 13:18                               ` handa
2019-11-28 15:44                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-11-28 16:32                                   ` Štěpán Němec
2019-12-05 14:31                                     ` handa
2019-12-05 15:02                                       ` Štěpán Němec
2019-12-06  1:10   ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2019-12-06  2:55   ` 積丹尼 Dan Jacobson
2019-12-06  8:23     ` Štěpán Němec

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

  List information: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=87y2xnb72s.fsf@gmail.com \
    --to=stepnem@gmail.com \
    --cc=3179@debbugs.gnu.org \
    --cc=jidanni@jidanni.org \
    --cc=larsi@gnus.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this public inbox

	https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/emacs.git

This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for read-only IMAP folder(s) and NNTP newsgroup(s).