From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#39902: 28.0.50; Marking in dired with active region Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2020 02:38:29 +0200 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <87y2sbloaa.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <87d09suras.fsf@web.de> <87tv33r8e2.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87eeu6hpjf.fsf@web.de> <875zfixuoy.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <87h7z1jadw.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="26031"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: 39902@debbugs.gnu.org To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Mar 08 02:06:59 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jAkPD-0006eT-9F for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 08 Mar 2020 02:06:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53958 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jAkPC-00055H-Ar for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2020 20:06:58 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:55289) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jAkOJ-00047g-Pu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2020 20:06:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jAkOI-00078H-LS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2020 20:06:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:41816) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jAkOI-00078B-F7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2020 20:06:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jAkOI-0004ID-AP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2020 20:06:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2020 01:06:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 39902 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 39902-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B39902.158362954416456 (code B ref 39902); Sun, 08 Mar 2020 01:06:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 39902) by debbugs.gnu.org; 8 Mar 2020 01:05:44 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47785 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jAkO0-0004HM-5F for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2020 20:05:44 -0500 Original-Received: from bird.elm.relay.mailchannels.net ([23.83.212.17]:21884) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1jAkNw-0004Gz-NH for 39902@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2020 20:05:42 -0500 X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org Original-Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 562D9400911; Sun, 8 Mar 2020 01:05:38 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a44.g.dreamhost.com (100-96-42-19.trex.outbound.svc.cluster.local [100.96.42.19]) (Authenticated sender: dreamhost) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id BE4BC40062E; Sun, 8 Mar 2020 01:05:37 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a44.g.dreamhost.com ([TEMPUNAVAIL]. [64.90.62.162]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.18.5); Sun, 08 Mar 2020 01:05:38 +0000 X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: dreamhost|x-authsender|jurta@jurta.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: dreamhost X-Chief-Trail: 523eda0509c8f40f_1583629538010_642403205 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1583629538010:2591446505 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1583629538010 Original-Received: from pdx1-sub0-mail-a44.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a44.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F177480104; Sat, 7 Mar 2020 17:05:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=linkov.net; h=from:to:cc :subject:references:date:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version :content-type; s=linkov.net; bh=pSJuFn9OefVG+N37M5kWvfNkL5w=; b= IZncC7Ei9bVp1O5UB9p3hpnj8u7mLJzvjQFs1QKgPcLLghZs7xcjLCXGRnLNhi9v aDegOd6GwFy7/cXAOLK6xcmCWYSd+dVsWOFhyLu5FdWhBwEnvsvUaOdY7xcHD1Oc bF33q3Js08MCTduhYpDXCVMIfAuyVBf6jQQzCHEy+JE= Original-Received: from mail.jurta.org (m91-129-103-27.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.103.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jurta@jurta.org) by pdx1-sub0-mail-a44.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1F18B80101; Sat, 7 Mar 2020 17:05:29 -0800 (PST) X-DH-BACKEND: pdx1-sub0-mail-a44 In-Reply-To: <87h7z1jadw.fsf@web.de> (Michael Heerdegen's message of "Sat, 07 Mar 2020 01:07:07 +0100") X-VR-OUT-STATUS: OK X-VR-OUT-SCORE: -100 X-VR-OUT-SPAMCAUSE: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedugedrudduhedgfedtucetufdoteggodetrfdotffvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuggftfghnshhusghstghrihgsvgdpffftgfetoffjqffuvfenuceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmnecujfgurhephffvufhofhffjgfkfgggtgesmhdtreertdertdenucfhrhhomheplfhurhhiucfnihhnkhhovhcuoehjuhhriheslhhinhhkohhvrdhnvghtqeenucfkphepledurdduvdelrddutdefrddvjeenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedtnecurfgrrhgrmhepmhhouggvpehsmhhtphdphhgvlhhopehmrghilhdrjhhurhhtrgdrohhrghdpihhnvghtpeeluddruddvledruddtfedrvdejpdhrvghtuhhrnhdqphgrthhhpefluhhrihcunfhinhhkohhvuceojhhurhhisehlihhnkhhovhdrnhgvtheqpdhmrghilhhfrhhomhepjhhurhhisehlihhnkhhovhdrnhgvthdpnhhrtghpthhtohepmhhitghhrggvlhgphhgvvghruggvghgvnhesfigvsgdruggv X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:177040 Archived-At: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain > What I expect is a behavior analogue to "graphical" file browsers (with > icons and such - I don't use one, but anyway). 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manager exactly like Dired. > If expectations might be that different maybe the behavior should be > made controllable with a new user option? A new user option will help in any case. But before adding it, maybe we could try to improve the visual feedback of selection in Dired. Would it be possible to display the whole line (including file name) highlighted with the 'region' face, even when point is still before the file name? If this is not possbile to implement, then a new user option could have a name 'dired-mark-non-selected-files' or 'dired-mark-files-on-current-line'. --=-=-=--