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From: Pip Cet <pipcet@gmail.com>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>
Cc: mattiase@acm.org, stefan@marxist.se, 40968@debbugs.gnu.org,
	npostavs@gmail.com
Subject: bug#40968: 28.0.50; (apply nil)
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2020 18:41:00 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y2p5xqdf.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c876f1aa-64ce-49da-b098-d193d5d8901a@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Tue, 2 Jun 2020 10:10:09 -0700 (PDT)")

Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

>> We will not require minimum 2 args because that would be backward
>> incompatible.  I'm quite sure I already said that before.
>
> Yes, you did, as I indicated: "The only good
> case presented was to say that this would be
> an incompatible change."
>
> In expressing my non-inclusion in the purported
> "consensus", that's all I did.

Thank you for doing so. I think it's important to have a record of
whether a decision was reached by consensus or not, and I had wrongly
supposed this to be a case of the former. Sorry.

> My suggestion is to not only "recommend always
> passing 2 or more arguments" but to issue a
> warning when that's not the case.  And to
> deprecate that use (letting users know that at
> some point it might no longer be supported).

A first step towards that would be to change our existing Lisp code not
to use single-argument apply, which we could do in a follow-up patch.

> And (IMO) the reason given to users for the
> recommendation shouldn't be just because ("as")
> "the function works faster in that case".

I agree. I'll make another suggestion.





  reply	other threads:[~2020-06-02 18:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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     [not found] ` <<CAOqdjBfj6AExvem5WWLfMiw4fEsY-xUUmosV+fj9CaPgWM16ag@mail.gmail.com>
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     [not found]       ` <<6ADF0807-7EBD-4054-8579-4D9AD3065D51@acm.org>
     [not found]         ` <<CAOqdjBdQne3RFTjg4hej40L5aeBx6vbGp6nXKx2TwPkLPf5NPw@mail.gmail.com>
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     [not found]             ` <<83pnahctad.fsf@gnu.org>
2020-06-02 17:10               ` bug#40968: 28.0.50; (apply nil) Drew Adams
2020-06-02 18:41                 ` Pip Cet [this message]
2020-04-29 18:26 Pip Cet
2020-04-29 18:35 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-06  1:51 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-06  7:26   ` Pip Cet
2020-05-06 11:24     ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-06 11:49       ` Pip Cet
2020-05-06 13:02         ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-06 13:55           ` Pip Cet
2020-05-06 15:28             ` Stefan Kangas
2020-05-06 18:06               ` Pip Cet
2020-05-06 19:26                 ` Drew Adams
2020-05-06 14:03           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-06 17:54             ` Pip Cet
2020-05-06 18:09               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-06 18:00           ` Drew Adams
2020-05-06 18:28             ` Noam Postavsky
2020-05-06 19:17               ` Drew Adams
2020-05-06 19:21                 ` Pip Cet
2020-05-06 19:28                   ` Drew Adams
2020-05-07  2:27                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-06 17:46         ` Drew Adams
2020-05-06 20:32         ` Phil Sainty
2020-05-06 21:35           ` Drew Adams
2020-09-29  3:00     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-06 10:18 ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-05-06 10:45   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-06 10:57     ` Andreas Schwab
2020-05-06 11:25   ` Pip Cet
2020-05-06 11:49     ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-05-06 18:42 ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-05-07  6:53   ` Pip Cet
2020-05-07  9:11     ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-05-07 11:54       ` Noam Postavsky
2020-05-07 11:58         ` Pip Cet
2020-05-07 12:20           ` Noam Postavsky
2020-05-07 13:53         ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-06-02  7:36           ` Pip Cet
2020-06-02 16:32             ` Drew Adams
2020-06-02 16:43               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-06-02 16:36             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-09-27 15:01             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2020-09-27 19:28               ` Drew Adams

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