From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#46240: Sorting order of read-char-by-name Date: Wed, 03 Feb 2021 16:35:00 +0100 Message-ID: <87y2g5i2qj.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87v9bb4tm2.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83wnvr65zg.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8h266x2.fsf@mail.linkov.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18591"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 46240@debbugs.gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 03 16:37:41 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l7KDs-0004dK-DL for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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I'm not opposed to adding a variable to control the sorting order, but I still don't quite understand when it would be useful to sort by Unicode order. Why does the current (English name) sorting result in an almost random order? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no