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[83.132.177.247]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id u13sm9401109wrt.41.2021.09.24.16.23.13 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 24 Sep 2021 16:23:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Kangas's message of "Fri, 24 Sep 2021 16:01:55 -0700") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:215350 Archived-At: Stefan Kangas writes: > Jo=C3=A3o T=C3=A1vora writes: > >> diff --git a/doc/emacs/building.texi b/doc/emacs/building.texi >> index 8de93867ba..7d655449c5 100644 >> --- a/doc/emacs/building.texi >> +++ b/doc/emacs/building.texi >> @@ -1764,10 +1764,10 @@ External Lisp >> @cindex mode, Lisp >> @cindex Common Lisp >> >> - Lisp mode is the major mode for editing programs written in >> -general-purpose Lisp dialects, such as Common Lisp. Its mode command >> -is @kbd{M-x lisp-mode}. Emacs uses Lisp mode automatically for files >> -whose names end in @file{.l}, @file{.lsp}, or @file{.lisp}. >> + Lisp mode is the major mode for editing programs written in Common >> +Lisp or its ancestor dialects. Its mode command is @kbd{M-x >> +lisp-mode}. Emacs uses Lisp mode automatically for files whose names >> +end in @file{.l}, @file{.lsp}, or @file{.lisp}. >> >> @findex run-lisp >> @vindex inferior-lisp-program > > This change was never installed, was it? No, we never decided on the wording, so only the change to the docstring was installed. > I think saying "programs written in Common Lisp" is good, and leaving > the "ancestor dialects" part out of it. I agree. That's Stefan M.'s position too. But it's not Eli's. Jo=C3=A3o PS: Instead of "ancestor dialects", we could also say "related dialects" if that is somewhat seen as a better middle ground.