From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Heerdegen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#54285: 29.0.50; Scrolling the calc help buffer Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2022 23:37:31 +0100 Message-ID: <87y21ltmms.fsf@web.de> References: <87ilspbxn9.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17827"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 54285@debbugs.gnu.org, Rudolf =?UTF-8?Q?Adamkovi=C4=8D?= To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 07 23:38:29 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nRLzp-0004UL-8W for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Mon, 07 Mar 2022 23:37:32 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87ilspbxn9.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 07 Mar 2022 16:16:58 +0100") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:kaKswfD1hcdhk8vdASm6bjxAMdrxcJSoNhIXUDwWJJ7o4J62jMz 82GmcQZx7Z5ZdSZanCOUVWOeertbzwBTnGSR3n/luJtk/Z/97aMD9nT1sDq7y8xEIJoGlhy 75u1NsjFk68OUNUwclvQkfdhN4Pb9wdIEHDzU7O/rcwDFtnbcrC04bZn2XFArIyVO7B/JJj O4lgumWm/quZDFcoh4Jpg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:g5tvBjg0VoU=:JvY/LKeQuUvomv+4OeKyIS FFmItHsB+c30qfNHWF2SqLdsGQE8t9tObzTaIBehCHxzLXapGuJdr8wg8g4fmdb8ZbN+eDF1s Z3iPFpcJFxpGc6ZOLGsZ/Jnucs6s4FduGsRaMpt9Uc+9uXFPk68vTUGNnZDHcR8VBDZFYSQFe NzzkNdrejnD+HfW7LmbvhSwV0nNzfuHdYl6hLCJ9K7pFaBiJ44nRVlOkQvenBhvJljQUuqN5Q VrsRbN73/zu/myOyDj40RKrdyFD/aQsE7Zw/Xyu8j6YZfUh1WrWR52IChfvZktUvM/d2pXBQw sshhqRK1kEKzbumZ8AzuFIlwoLMJoD3y14dXsQHGzX76hRZIhVShC9VYzDKoyeVek16oJa+qe s7dqp/Vf+F2P3br6UAXu/uVLaXSfOjYg+9uDaqwPS28mRkGxDTkg652kiKGt7AaIA8uWrSaSa zAf0qDh39hVQ0RqEFdoMdZT+IQcNbFOLPwe3yA5QNe6wz9t9+IdaxOgCkZ2eYj9jrQGjR0MAd 4Xa3wxzv9qda2kfv/C2A90Q7YR/oVGhPdpeb3TCOYM6Y7hmx1oQwCeetefNhiHgbAwNFAfx8w 0iQ/vEs3UZiov+PeemiZpYmSpfUt4pcaNK+hJh4Vrka1WoctEDQ6NEMhJPTqjjzeezNtfEe1S iMhcjqv7eIClV1iLlv2BcIWO2Ed+sc5J8nlK5qoA/AeZaxGx6Yu0HEYQV1cSchrHJpyuhZ+Zj JFdtfYajrtnG6OdquxfnmbPhPbP8CmIUC2BsuOkeBHf6oKpXSFOTyiiyZ8p9gAE+FYcfuvoB X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:228125 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > calc-dispatch-help is basically just looping over `read-event' and > responding only to the keyboard scroll keys. Perhaps a better way to > implement this would be to use the normal help functions (which are less > modal) so that these things work better? >From what I know: This particular help command is intended to be used intermediately while reading a key binding: you are supposed to look up the next key and hit it directly, without interruption. It's using `read-event' on purpose. I also don't like that much, but there are other good help commands to use instead. I fear that if you try to change this it will make things worse or less consistent, the Calc help system is complex, and you might end up with a non-trivial redesign. Dunno if the result would be much of an improvement. Maybe it's not that bad, dunno, but please be careful. Michael.