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Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID bdf7272f0dc1ae45169e3c0ed9485f73; Wed, 22 Feb 2023 06:02:38 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Tue, 21 Feb 2023 23:33:01 -0500") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.21183 mail.backend.jedi.jws.acl:role.jedi.acl.token.atz.jws.hermes.yahoo X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:256323 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > > That seems like a useful feature. But the GNUS manual has to expla= in it. > > > And, it does... > > > 8.13 Kill Files > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > Gnus still supports those pesky old kill files. In fact, the kill fi= le > > entries can now be expiring, which is something I wrote before Daniel > > Quinlan thought of doing score files, so I=E2=80=99ve left the code i= n there. > > That section gives full documentation of the kill file feature, > but the text with the joke doesn't say anything about it. > So that section still has the problem I complained about, > of using a term that has not been explained. > > That section ought to have a sentence saying what kill files do, > with an xref to the Kill Files node. > > Can someone please write that small fix? > > > 8.4 Score File Format > > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > > A score file is an =E2=80=98emacs-lisp=E2=80=99 file that normally co= ntains just a > > single form. Casual users are not expected to edit these files; > > everything can be changed from the summary buffer. > > The most important documentation for score files > is how to use the score feature. Does the GNUS manual > have that? > > If it already has good documentation of using that feature, there is > no need to write it over again. But the section with the joke needs > to have a sentence or two saying what scores and score files do, > plus a cross reference to the explanation of how to use them. > > Can someone please write that small fix? Here. The node with the joke is where score files are explained, and there is documentation on how they are used. diff --git a/doc/misc/gnus.texi b/doc/misc/gnus.texi index 486171a080a..677a552d135 100644 --- a/doc/misc/gnus.texi +++ b/doc/misc/gnus.texi @@ -19808,10 +19808,10 @@ Scoring @chapter Scoring @cindex scoring =20 -Other people use @dfn{kill files}, but we here at Gnus Towers like -scoring better than killing, so we'd rather switch than fight. They do -something completely different as well, so sit up straight and pay -attention! +Other people use kill files (@pxref{Kill Files}), but we here at Gnus +Towers like scoring better than killing, so we'd rather switch than +fight. They do something completely different as well, so sit up +straight and pay attention! =20 @vindex gnus-summary-mark-below All articles have a default score (@code{gnus-summary-default-score}),