From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Philip Kaludercic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#60418: [PATCH] Add :vc keyword to use-package Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2023 14:11:39 +0000 Message-ID: <87y1n3zsro.fsf@posteo.net> References: <87zgb6uk2r.fsf@hyperspace> <87tu0tl1s4.fsf@hyperspace> <87a5zt2emd.fsf@betli.tmit.bme.hu> <87fs9l9bim.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="11764"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Tony Zorman , 60418@debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com To: Felician Nemeth Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 07 16:12:34 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pkmpO-0002oN-Gi for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Fri, 7 Apr 2023 16:11:39 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <87fs9l9bim.fsf@posteo.net> (Philip Kaludercic's message of "Fri, 31 Mar 2023 15:38:25 +0000") Autocrypt: addr=philipk@posteo.net; keydata= mDMEZBBQQhYJKwYBBAHaRw8BAQdAHJuofBrfqFh12uQu0Yi7mrl525F28eTmwUDflFNmdui0QlBo aWxpcCBLYWx1ZGVyY2ljIChnZW5lcmF0ZWQgYnkgYXV0b2NyeXB0LmVsKSA8cGhpbGlwa0Bwb3N0 ZW8ubmV0PoiWBBMWCAA+FiEEDg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwMFCQHhM4AFCwkI BwIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwulikAEA77hloUiSrXgFkUVJhlKBpLCHUjA0 mWZ9j9w5d08+jVwBAK6c4iGP7j+/PhbkxaEKa4V3MzIl7zJkcNNjHCXmvFcEuDgEZBBQQhIKKwYB BAGXVQEFAQEHQI5NLiLRjZy3OfSt1dhCmFyn+fN/QKELUYQetiaoe+MMAwEIB4h+BBgWCAAmFiEE Dg7HY17ghYlni8XN8xYDWXahwukFAmQQUEICGwwFCQHhM4AACgkQ8xYDWXahwukm+wEA8cml4JpK NeAu65rg+auKrPOP6TP/4YWRCTIvuYDm0joBALw98AMz7/qMHvSCeU/hw9PL6u6R2EScxtpKnWof z4oM X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:259424 Archived-At: Philip Kaludercic writes: > Felician Nemeth writes: > >> merge 60418 61937 >> thanks >> >> (I hope the above works, I've never merged bugs before.) >> >> Philip Kaludercic writes: >> >>> I have to admit that I am not a fan of this [adding package-vc support >>> to use-package]. Personally I install all my packages using regular >>> tarballs, and then manually select packages that I want to track in >>> source-form if I am interested in contributing a patch. >>> >>> One has to keep in mind that by default you will be checking out the tip >>> of the default development branch. This is not what GNU ELPA and NonGNU >>> ELPA do. I know *some other* archives do this, but IMO this contributes >>> to the instability that a lot of Emacs users experience in regards to >>> the packages in the Emacs world. Coincidentally I also believe that the >>> popularity of alternative (non-cooperative) package managers like this >>> "straight.el" boils down to the promise of being able to pin and revert >>> to previous packages states. Personally I believe that this is an >>> up-side-down approach to solve the problem from the wrong angle. The >>> default approach to package management should be reliable and suffice. >> >> I think Pandora's box is already open with having package-vc. >> >> Maybe use-package's package-vc integration should use more sensible >> defaults then? But if people don't like this feature, I personally >> won't press the issue further. > > I am afraid I don't know what you mean by more sensible? My central > point is that I wouldn't want to encourage people to download packages > using package-vc by default. ping? -- Philip Kaludercic