From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ihor Radchenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#71081: 30.0.50; shell-command-on-region outputs boilerplate text on Windows Date: Thu, 23 May 2024 14:36:22 +0000 Message-ID: <87y180wq6x.fsf@localhost> References: <875xv8qqlv.fsf@localhost> <86y1848g3a.fsf@gnu.org> <863fc61b-5ad5-47e5-9f95-96cdcfcfd016@gutov.dev> <8634qa8tp0.fsf@gnu.org> <87le42jcj0.fsf@localhost> <86a5ki6kf1.fsf@gnu.org> <875xv5kjmg.fsf@localhost> <86zfsh6gpp.fsf@gnu.org> <87cypcybpa.fsf@localhost> <86bk4w4pjg.fsf@gnu.org> <875xv4y6er.fsf@localhost> <867cfk4nus.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39673"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: dmitry@gutov.dev, 71081@debbugs.gnu.org, matt@excalamus.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu May 23 16:35:22 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1sA9XN-000A4M-BT for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 23 May 2024 16:35:21 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sA9Wz-0000dh-Gk; Thu, 23 May 2024 10:34:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sA9Wy-0000dL-3H for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 May 2024 10:34:56 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1sA9Wx-0007f4-QZ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 May 2024 10:34:55 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sA9X3-0003Tb-SF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 May 2024 10:35:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Ihor Radchenko Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 23 May 2024 14:35:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 71081 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 71081-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B71081.171647489713350 (code B ref 71081); Thu, 23 May 2024 14:35:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 71081) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 May 2024 14:34:57 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59310 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sA9Wy-0003TG-Ty for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 May 2024 10:34:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:60115) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1sA9Ws-0003TA-PQ for 71081@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 May 2024 10:34:55 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2607D240027 for <71081@debbugs.gnu.org>; Thu, 23 May 2024 16:34:37 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1716474878; bh=FuIIHZQF6VblCqb/piOlzPrdANcTjPVzwNVNxcKrgEs=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type: From; b=NmR4eCwcrca8ZhsrDYMGUDj0/peeBJSirYDhqJQrlBKHpb0zqIRVaFygUJAvSO7wN mE6mapZ0VSxrIBLs4i+AOW/01/60AVr4cc7sM3ybSvRjHfXhA5Vypkn9NigKo4Yoog 8EckQKz8A7xqvbU8TG0PrbaLBTJn/TJgpBg50sRCc6egUhwFdrEEUBHRsjU0iklu5D /uw09ls8EtlB2pTM6SzsK0mGQv2pzp8A0ZyzIjst3B+79K+e+yZCFtjv95NEJtkS9H Fc3Lcoh+qi8nCU05TcmQdns47mLSetYILWaDzK1NYwRlVi/Ud1kGHcmeb2vQ/b1wWG 2loLtActr0JYQ== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4VlW0D534lz9rxK; Thu, 23 May 2024 16:34:36 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <867cfk4nus.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:285715 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Should it be documented in the docstring of `shell-command-to-string'? > > We could, but IMO such tangential information belongs to the manual, > not to the doc string. We should also somehow avoid the slippery > slope of describing all the differences between the Posix shells and > the Windows shell. E.g., newlines are also not allowed in Windows > file names, but we don't mention that in doc strings of every function > that deals with file names. Understood. >> Why would anyone assume that `shell-command-to-string' is >> passed as an argument to cmd.exe and not piped as input? > > Because the doc string says so: > > Execute shell command COMMAND and return its output as a string. > > "Execute COMMAND" means run it as "SHELL -c COMMAND", in any > reasonable interpretation. Anything else is not the usual way of > running commands. Another reasonable interpretation is: "do the same thing as if I type COMMAND into shell prompt". But that's me. If you think that my interpretation is uncommon, so be it. >> more over, on Linux, different shells have different behaviors wrt >> input/command argument/script file). > > Same on Windows. Try PowerShell some day. Does it mean we need to > document all of that in our documentation? It would be nice, yes. Without details - just point that there is a difference. Maybe in the "41.3 Creating a Synchronous Process" section of the manual. -- Ihor Radchenko // yantar92, Org mode contributor, Learn more about Org mode at . Support Org development at , or support my work at