From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Yavor Doganov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#1333: 23.0; Emacs.app does not load ~/.emacs Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 02:58:21 +0200 Organization: The GNU Emacs Church (Bulgarian eparchy) Message-ID: <87wsb26tea.GNU's_Not_Unix!%yavor@gnu.org> References: <87y6vi73j7.GNU's_Not_Unix!%yavor@gnu.org> <3F164827-190B-4DF2-BF36-2F9B07B47001@gmail.com> Reply-To: Yavor Doganov , 1333@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1236389081 10846 80.91.229.12 (7 Mar 2009 01:24:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 01:24:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Yavor Doganov , 1333@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: Adrian Robert Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 07 02:25:57 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LflIb-0001N2-39 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 02:25:57 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55127 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LflHF-0007Lw-HI for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:24:33 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LflGT-0006hT-E0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:23:45 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LflGQ-0006dh-Rv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:23:44 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34612 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LflGQ-0006dL-MV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:23:42 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:56445) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LflGQ-0007rS-6E for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:23:42 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n271Nej1011195; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:23:40 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n27155ZJ006269; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 17:05:05 -0800 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Yavor Doganov Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs , owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 01:05:05 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 1333 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs,ns X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 1333-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B1333.12363875114130 (code B ref 1333); Sat, 07 Mar 2009 01:05:05 +0000 Original-Received: (at 1333) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 7 Mar 2009 00:58:31 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from f7.net (server1.f7.net [64.34.169.74]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n270wRrm004123 for <1333@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 16:58:28 -0800 X-Envelope-From: yavor@gnu.org X-Envelope-To: 1333@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Original-Received: from yavor.doganov.org (92_245.btc-net.bg [213.91.245.92] (may be forged)) by f7.net (8.11.7-20030920/8.11.7) with ESMTP id n270wOv01846; Fri, 6 Mar 2009 18:58:24 -0600 Original-Received: from gana.yavor.doganov.org ([192.168.0.5]) by yavor.doganov.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lfkrt-0001D7-RQ; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 02:58:23 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=gana.yavor.doganov.org) by gana.yavor.doganov.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Lfkrt-0000vn-C2; Sat, 07 Mar 2009 02:58:21 +0200 In-Reply-To: <3F164827-190B-4DF2-BF36-2F9B07B47001@gmail.com> Mail-Followup-To: Adrian Robert , 1333@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, Yavor Doganov User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.5 (Almost Unreal) SEMI/1.14.6 (Maruoka) FLIM/1.14.9 =?UTF-8?Q?(Goj=C5=8D)?= APEL/10.7 Emacs/22.3 (i486-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/5.0 (SAKAKI) X-Jabber-ID: doganov@jabber.minus273.org X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 192.168.0.5 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: yavor@gnu.org X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:14:11 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on yavor.doganov.org) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2009 20:23:44 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:26088 Archived-At: Adrian Robert wrote: > As I posted earlier on emacs-devel, fixing CANNOT_DUMP might be as > simple I will reply to that (very informative and useful) post when I feel I have the guts to, but: > as adding similar zone alloc commands to unexelf.c as in > unexmacosx.c. That's not possible, AFAICT. The GNU C library has no knowledge of zones, so it is not possible to copy the logic from unexmacosx.c to unexelf.c just like that. > It might be possible to use unexnext as a simpler model (kept around > until shortly after the merge). I don't know anything about unexnext. I guess I can dig it out from the SF repo; thanks for the pointer. One possible way to solve the problem is to use NSZone functions wrapped and callable from C. But unexmacosx.c does some low-level things which are not possible with NSZone. So it is doubtful if this approach would succeed at all. > I think if Gurkan can (heroically) manage get the package in to > Debian It doesn't depend on him, it is the Debian Emacs maintainers' call. > it will expand the user base, and hopefully at least slightly > improve the number actually rolling up their sleeves and trying to > fix things. Yes, I absolutely agree that it is up to us (GNUstep users) to solve these problems. But the CANNOT_DUMP problem is not a "simple problem" so one should not expect that a mortal user can solve such a major issue somehow, somewhen.