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[70.64.85.59]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 86sm388444ioj.8.2017.06.02.16.46.10 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Fri, 02 Jun 2017 16:46:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87vaoe0ykl.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> (npostavs@users.sourceforge.net's message of "Fri, 02 Jun 2017 19:17:14 -0400") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:133194 Archived-At: npostavs@users.sourceforge.net writes: > Alex writes: > >>> AFAICT `print-circle' and `print-gensym' also control how `prin1' >>> prints. >> >> Does print-circle? Consider: >> >> (prin1 `(cons ,(make-symbol "hello") >> ,(make-symbol "hello"))) >> >> print-gensym certainly makes a difference in the output, but >> print-circle doesn't seem to. > > You're producing 2 different symbols, try > > (let ((sym (make-symbol "hello"))) > (prin1 `(cons ,sym ,sym))) Right, sorry for the bad example. I don't know what I was thinking. >> However, I don't know how prin1 would keep track of the uninterned >> symbols across many different procedure calls, which it would need to do >> for it to know what is being shared. > > It looks like `print-continuous-numbering' and `print-number-table' > might be relevant. That does look like an option, thanks. I'd still like for cl-macs.el to produce readable output without all of these extra print-* variables set, but if it's infeasible to do that, then I'll look into using those.