From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#31231: Symbol search broken in NEWS and ChangeLogs Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 22:16:16 +0300 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <87wowwmn3z.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <87604kqpji.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83vacjw4dn.fsf@gnu.org> <87y3he7vn4.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83sh7mwt2u.fsf@gnu.org> <8736zlznjq.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83a7ttwcxx.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1524599828 9180 195.159.176.226 (24 Apr 2018 19:57:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 19:57:08 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: 31231@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 24 21:57:04 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fB43g-0002Bs-3t for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2018 21:57:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60625 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fB45n-0000Lg-2p for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2018 15:59:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38570) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fB45f-0000K9-SI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2018 15:59:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fB45e-0001eR-9x for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2018 15:59:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:58808) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fB45e-0001eC-6i for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2018 15:59:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fB45d-0000nH-Nn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2018 15:59:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 19:59:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 31231 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 31231-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B31231.15245999403044 (code B ref 31231); Tue, 24 Apr 2018 19:59:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 31231) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Apr 2018 19:59:00 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38472 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fB45c-0000n2-6z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2018 15:59:00 -0400 Original-Received: from sub3.mail.dreamhost.com ([69.163.253.7]:37830 helo=homiemail-a101.g.dreamhost.com) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fB45a-0000mu-CL for 31231@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2018 15:58:58 -0400 Original-Received: from homiemail-a101.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a101.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E64F117E07C; Tue, 24 Apr 2018 12:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost.linkov.net (m91-129-103-238.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.103.238]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jurta@jurta.org) by homiemail-a101.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4244C117E078; Tue, 24 Apr 2018 12:58:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83a7ttwcxx.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 24 Apr 2018 05:33:30 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:145736 Archived-At: >> >> But how these text terminals display Unicode quotes in Info manuals= ? >> > >> > Info manuals are displayed by an Info reader, and each Info reader h= as >> > its own solution for this problem (generally, substitution of ASCII >> > characters for undisplayable Unicode ones). >>=20 >> Does the Emacs Info reader implement such solution? > > Emacs itself does, not just in Info. The standalone Info reader (part > of the Texinfo package) has a slightly different solution. Then using the same solution as not just for Info, Emacs will automatical= ly substitute ASCII characters for undisplayable Unicode ones in all other places like NEWS and ChangeLogs. >> Every symbol in NEWS quoted by either =E2=80=98straight=E2=80=99 quoti= ng style 'like this', >> or =E2=80=98grave=E2=80=99 `like this'. For example, for 'electric-qu= ote-replace-double' >> starting Isearch with =E2=80=98M-s .=E2=80=99, and repeating the same = symbol search in the >> source code. > > I'm asking what us the problem not to use "M-s ." in those cases, and > instead to look for the symbol as a literal string. I think in a file > like NEWS this shouldn't yield too many false hits. > > Ah, I see I've misunderstood. You originally talked about "M-s _", not= about > "M-s .". > > Is "M-s ." the main/only problem? Not only =E2=80=98M-s .=E2=80=99, more so =E2=80=98M-s _=E2=80=99 where n= either =E2=80=98M-s _ C-M-y=E2=80=99 nor =E2=80=98M-s _ C-M-w=E2=80=99 work when used at the beginning of the = symbol. It's a good habit to use symbol search to search symbols because it reduces the likelihood of errors, so using it should be encouraged in NEWS and ChangeLogs.