From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#39389: 27.0.60; A couple of bugs messing with minibuffer completion of /sudo:: Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2020 15:39:57 +0100 Message-ID: <87wo91p076.fsf@gmx.de> References: <87eevdvvmk.fsf@gmx.de> <0ae56395-5fdd-0892-47d6-556aa902effe@gmail.com> <87a760x3ej.fsf@gmx.de> <9b2b8ce4-97fc-52cf-384d-2ee83ca37251@gmail.com> <875zgowy0b.fsf@gmx.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="50316"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 39389@debbugs.gnu.org To: Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 05 15:41:38 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1izLs2-000CyL-1J for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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s=badeba3b8450; t=1580913598; bh=ps4VJtrhsRBPvc6Bo4rtDosSsldR0xs7PJJQrlbfI4A=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To; b=dQdsT8VpTfBcWfpJAml4JkY68PO1KHKKMJCuGvG1oFjzREc8vQB381WJb7DdE6JnP QiUsJ1MkbXCjOw+vWIkWN02Y2N7MMK+8kkLEcRFL5BuPmlOv/ZFzi43rCgm/+yEHxn AxTWbgaPNfx+PI6xPTxcL7C9ABI0Pl1LCxaqgE0g= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Original-Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([212.86.42.94]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1MDQeU-1ir8dE0skg-00AUon; Wed, 05 Feb 2020 15:39:58 +0100 In-Reply-To: (Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong's message of "Wed, 5 Feb 2020 13:31:31 +0000") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:oeDHV7DyI7trjV6nR2ghSimOaNP4mP7iMFxZFbg4OUnLuQ/axZx JcPf7bIktX2x3r1hNfN+zq61EsrGVMOeZ4R3lwBtTP12NOWvYKhuI8NmKqR9l1P6SpnEsN0 53Bzg6FFLY/uSgYxokwP1M9XdrNypNqOpYr57QlpZMqhi0mxiWio/0mPyWaDh5Qbm26zqwl cbn/HgRdIWcAhpZscWp7g== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:bMMxxD0uMnA=:AdNqtoCXG5jQJ3Iu1r057u 6mjiBhgW1KxwA6zlPtjt3alC0donZW6qM8UMZoQu+jrptAggrlKgtYZWTItUhTpmUD+CtnQ/3 o0lV8+w8r888EAzEtkxIqk4SS6VKrTcM+j9ZM8nU+bwz78Cu++fay6qa2s17/+bOJaDoaJ/zg 0JEqqYA8RjH/qo6tqtAMWyiy0/AaktPH7ixvT5QRQ5LvZkaldxqGpol8C7aZH9a1fuRCFnCnx rUAehqIb77jjXqQYDW4i/OvL317DGDZHmEYRZmGkWypdczRNS/YBRi+KEzEufP9Lc0bEkxViF EeINaYHjUGtYCs5MCLA2q1y//CdvHhiavcGgAAufEDzYcJPyxyTPDkAEktP+AeqvWo9QefsAh wi1xS14WLG1j+qlVGj//IbTvy4H2gQkVe04QykkvzpP7atGN+o6ymOWbDYbp971mpaS6zXfOj XaHgwvGNgatBUfQWlSeFEjvrcZhqpocqWbXtbczil4NALxWx96dfqvcs1wpPkIDBLQ+/QcaqK uUL3GF8ZlU8iJi8nhbjHz2w9bwGXtJyDQKZLeOTTriDN83DxoZ7ano9+BvaFiB17JyCAsfQtl 6ZGI87WkfCm2VOmSfSsgAuKUCfHZ8iPsV1eIg0lix4EEQfBdPJBivf97+S37MYOVDFPim4RZE 0ODDECWFo7JleAXANPB15Y54PAIlR5woC8UsLZmF5H1Wao42GMFtTwvOZcXFZNcJtLCwNaTh+ tBpa8SND6CwCe3e6FZJBPnQ8JsjoJ5r8wIBBuVX8/ieBeELg77u/BjzeWdzbiv4sXny/Rpux X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:175698 Archived-At: Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong writes: Hi, >> > I expect either that variable didn't exist and Tramp file name >> > completion was always fast, or when it's off, ido just reverts back to >> > the behavior of the regular `find-file`, which should allow me to type >> > out the whole Tramp syntax. >> >> Why do you expect this? At least the docstring of that variable doesn't >> tell that ido behaves like this, when the variable is set to nil. > > Because no reasonable person will knowing turn on something that will > break tramp during find-file completely. It is not about turning *on*, it is about turning *off* (setting ido-enable-tramp-completion to nil). I, for example, would not expect remote file names to work, after setting a variable with this name to nil. >> I agree with you, that the variable shall document its behaviour in this >> case. >> > > It's not a documentation problem. It's called the principle of least > astonishment, and the culprit for bug 1 is hidden somewhere in > `ido-read-internal` in one of the 2 cases that deals with tramp > syntax. admin/MAINTAINERS does not mention anybody who feels responsible for ido.el. I hope somebody can chime in. I'm not such familiar with ido. > For bug 2 and 3, there's definitely something wrong with the > `auth-source-search` call in `tramp-read-passwd` that's blocking the > display of the password prompt, as the same workaround works for both > issues. Both bugs require exec-path-from-shell.el MELPA, which I don't use. Have you contacted the author of that package, for debugging? Before seeing evidences, I wouldn't say that "there's definitely something wrong with the `auth-source-search` call in `tramp-read-passwd`". It is used by many users as it is. Best regards, Michael.