From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Juri Linkov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#43308: 28.0.50; Improvements to Edit->Search menu Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 22:14:00 +0300 Organization: LINKOV.NET Message-ID: <87wo1178cn.fsf@mail.linkov.net> References: <87zh5xiuk4.fsf@localhost> <831rj9k79b.fsf@gnu.org> <83sgbpiqa7.fsf@gnu.org> <87mu1xa380.fsf@mail.linkov.net> <83imclii71.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="28026"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Cc: 43308@debbugs.gnu.org, stefankangas@gmail.com, yantar92@gmail.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 10 21:16:13 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kGS3I-00079B-PR for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 21:16:12 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51016 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGS3H-0003ld-S5 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 15:16:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45330) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGS39-0003kj-Lr for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 15:16:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:57937) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kGS39-0003qG-CX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 15:16:03 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kGS39-0005pe-7q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 15:16:03 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Juri Linkov Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2020 19:16:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 43308 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 43308-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B43308.159976530322274 (code B ref 43308); Thu, 10 Sep 2020 19:16:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 43308) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Sep 2020 19:15:03 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41233 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kGS2B-0005nB-BJ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 15:15:03 -0400 Original-Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.195]:43843) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1kGS29-0005mQ-8v for 43308@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 15:15:01 -0400 X-Originating-IP: 91.129.97.241 Original-Received: from mail.gandi.net (m91-129-97-241.cust.tele2.ee [91.129.97.241]) (Authenticated sender: juri@linkov.net) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B2ECD60006; Thu, 10 Sep 2020 19:14:53 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <83imclii71.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 10 Sep 2020 21:45:54 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:187760 Archived-At: >> But it you really don't want to remove nonincremental menu items from >> the Edit menu then they could be swapped with incremental menu items, >> i.e. to promote incremental menu items higher, and demote nonincremental >> menu items deeper to the submenu where currently more often used >> incremental menu items are located. > > That'd be the opposite of what the menu should be doing, which is > putting the easier and more familiar commands closer to the top level. TUTORIAL teaches about incremental commands: * SEARCHING ----------- The Emacs search command is "incremental". This means that the search happens while you type in the string to search for. The command to initiate a search is C-s for forward search, and C-r for reverse search. BUT WAIT! Don't try them now. When you type C-s you'll notice that the string "I-search" appears as a prompt in the echo area. This tells you that Emacs is in what is called an incremental search waiting for you to type the thing that you want to search for. terminates a search. Did you see what happened? Emacs, in an incremental search, tries to go to the occurrence of the string that you've typed out so far. To go to the next occurrence of "cursor" just type C-s again. If no such occurrence exists, Emacs beeps and tells you the search is currently "failing". C-g would also terminate the search. If you are in the middle of an incremental search and type , the ... so this is what newbies need to know and use from the menu.