From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#43764: Calc shift right broken Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2020 03:28:56 +0200 Message-ID: <87wo04nnvr.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87h7r9ozuh.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7054"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Vincent =?UTF-8?Q?Bela=C3=AFche?= , 43764@debbugs.gnu.org To: Mattias =?UTF-8?Q?Engdeg=C3=A5rd?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 06 03:30:55 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kPbod-0001kE-84 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Or would >> that entail major Calc surgery?=20=20 > > Any changes to Calc, however minor, are fraught with danger and excitemen= t! :-) > Fun as it may be, better not making changes speculatively though. > (On the other hand it could be that everyone have been bothered about > this for years. I have no way of knowing.) In olden times, I would guess most people thought that it just had to be this way. But now that the rest of Emacs has bignums, it's perhaps more surprising that Calc behaves this way when doing shifts. On the other hand, I don't know what people use Calc for here. If people are going "I wonder what would happen on a 32-bit machine if I were to do this shift operation", then it'd be something else... --=20 (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no