From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#49261: 28.0.50; File Locking Breaks Presumptuous Toolchains Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2021 20:46:57 +0200 Message-ID: <87wnpvbc9q.fsf@gmx.de> References: <87zguyf4ht.fsf@gmx.de> <87pmvum54p.fsf@gnus.org> <87v95mf2lj.fsf@gmx.de> <87pmvt3ob1.fsf@gnus.org> <87fswpgacv.fsf@gmx.de> <87bl7dfikj.fsf@gmx.de> <8735sofuqj.fsf@gmx.de> <83sg0oc83l.fsf@gnu.org> <87v95jevrm.fsf@gmx.de> <83lf6fdav4.fsf@gnu.org> <87r1g7eoor.fsf@gmx.de> <87im1jphyy.fsf@gnus.org> <87im1fd4fr.fsf@gmx.de> <83sg0jaaud.fsf@gnu.org> <87a6mrd2di.fsf@gmx.de> <838s2ba18y.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmvnsadx.fsf@gnus.org> <837dhva0vi.fsf@gnu.org> <871r83cszh.fsf@gmx.de> <834kcz9you.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="20824"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: larsi@gnus.org, ncaprisunfan@gmail.com, 49261@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 12 20:48:13 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m30yR-0005C3-JV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Mon, 12 Jul 2021 20:47:00 +0200 In-Reply-To: <834kcz9you.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Mon, 12 Jul 2021 21:25:37 +0300") X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:R2dm5y3wzBT2Sj41m27fFiFpq12JZrQLwENVLy/ACczWZ7vcDJC yBcCAgRMPyNKrFLXK9i6XhCP1wvmqwLESGcpunWok/smEQUGczn+P5htTpbSdEynrWlC3zL 0uMCKuk/B0IHQ3wexNtMZFyHrNdLP4Vreh+2RTUAyjfMFKRQMeghx7ZXcq3usis55S9yiVm Fl0f1nEySXU1h0ZSIM2gg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:BQ198h7y+u8=:LXUru2DhK6pzKLz9qeFlm+ QH4hwcKSQQTUnc79jYbujlWPt4lH1dE1APc194JyuKwknAwZK+iezlOLDb2LrwvbcojQ3m/HQ fiOanPZpNmkHcYE9EZD7PwyBbOh3k5boOwspKXbeBHjHYqWYKn7GJ65KVNpZi+2xhBPlkit7g Gwky33BmMQDJLrGIw+oHqre802ye02df78iIG3dEXK+0OjSu6OLD6+cGbM7haN7lujJuKe3XO e1SnFCcoz7aqW3+T/6S3ktv53DI5lMb9BxqNcmbyzZb6mJXPMR+YEJV2qO+2t9nat3T4WWJ7b TKAGq8/1bcDtcNwT1G+twrZ48Y0zT/P2Nl7IJXlQFlm/YkerhQiuQz6q2BP/2xe5iAeKOD9N2 AKojBCkwhaXCCxu7axEzDl48DlDRe+MY/1TtwDulPYk0BoUdIc5545Kq08hwLG0m9ENAJ3x3Q XBBMHmXoGV/m1UQbyPiGDHVALfI2BWLIlS6/ofVPKqK1X/UaRHk1+2fnO4u+93T13mQejDNdc 0JaxoFIpssblu/XJulvfMHJI3fgVSmTPQLKN2sS9G5ZwbuzQpc20ksIuzRBrlEt1EIIYnfR/E RQ7klsRn1M0NDVHC3fJBs10zyZ+q5p6MA04euM/YN1Ptz2SMn/zFjluuf+oZWspdOpvRJaVq3 S+/SLahVqkYIfQaa/qvsutUn251kBi02ij6Xv2ni+TMMu3ppJDlXQN/tfxy2tYD1EZVmJbQHL Vl9ml2IWRqLUSJAVpmo9w3IYl9Ey05veIQ7CZmHOqVtgC61QVf81Q9I6OO0/OiVtNb9Jk+Li X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:209838 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> > I suggested a compromise: disable it by default, but not via the >> > transform function. I think it's more natural, but even if you >> > disagree, would it do as a compromise? >> >> I'm OK with another user option to disable it, it doesn't matter too >> much. But I'm not sure whether we shall disable it by default: nobody(*= ) >> will enable it ever, and all the effort would be wasted. > > Now _I_ am confused: didn't you say that we _should_ disable it by > default for remote files, because that was how Emacs worked until now? > Or what did I miss? No. I meant we shall provide the *possibility* to disable it, because it didn't exist before. If I have written something which reads different, it is because of my limited English. Best regards, Michael.