From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13814: 24.3.50; Dynamic variables shadowing prevent defvar Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 13:00:37 +0200 Message-ID: <87wno9lrfu.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87hal0199m.fsf@orion.kollektiv-hamburg.de> <87y28tt0q1.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="18330"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 13814@debbugs.gnu.org, Jorgen Schaefer To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 25 13:16:11 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mIqt7-0004Yv-Sk for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2021 13:16:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41162 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mIqt6-0001xG-No for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2021 07:16:08 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53762) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mIqeU-0000Ep-LD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2021 07:01:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:34344) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mIqeU-000545-DQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2021 07:01:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mIqeU-0004qf-1f for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2021 07:01:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2021 11:01:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13814 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: moreinfo confirmed Original-Received: via spool by 13814-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13814.162988925418147 (code B ref 13814); Wed, 25 Aug 2021 11:01:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13814) by debbugs.gnu.org; 25 Aug 2021 11:00:54 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45887 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mIqeL-0004iO-Mh for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2021 07:00:54 -0400 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]:35118) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1mIqeH-0004a3-Pv for 13814@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 25 Aug 2021 07:00:52 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=i+UJzYK1ggxF274b3enRcCbwvVwk1XNsZ3uz78Ass0g=; b=k9eBLKV81MqScudGdEv7DW+XAM UA6uVlrRA0G0g5cuFfRm2xb2gHXlaAX0cBmphZfxDU6PlxKM8nJN+6qFeqM9K5/HPOp3KDq/VxaIa 66JQB1F1O9NEs5o76HubAmllAfrsJJcfHiZ96IdJ9lkOCDnQPYQmgQg1BMoXW1VTvI8Q=; Original-Received: from [84.212.220.105] (helo=elva) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mIqe6-0003AG-AK; Wed, 25 Aug 2021 13:00:42 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Tue, 24 Aug 2021 17:25:33 -0400") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:212604 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > FWIW, this bug was presumably fixed with: > > commit a104f656c8217b027866d32e8d7bf024a671e3cc > Author: Stefan Monnier > Date: Fri Aug 2 17:16:33 2013 -0400 > > So we should probably close it. Yup; closing it now. > Yes, this is a new feature: when we get to the `defvar` the problem is > not just that we need to "punch through" and define the toplevel/dynamic > value of `bug-variable` but also that the `let` would need to be > retroactively changed to be dynamic, which would in general require > time-travel, hence the error. That's being defeatist -- surely theory implies that time travel should be available any day now... -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no